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In Reply to: RE: Buyer be aware... posted by kuma on July 27, 2022 at 13:13:41
If the LP was mastered from a digital file and it sounds terrific, fine with me.
FWIW, my favorite engineer is Bernie Grundman.
The blissful counterstroke-a considerable new message.
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Not one of my favorites. there was a period where he was doing all of Classics reissues. Many of the same titles were being done by Steve Hoffman and Kevin Gray for Analog Productions and Music Matters. The Hoffman Gray versions were consistantly much better than the Grundman versions. A number of the Classics RCAs were absolute turkeys although he was really on a big win streak with the 45 rpm series.
The Music Matters and AP Blue Note reissues aren't nearly as good as the originals, and I'm not talking about first pressings either. Any Blue Note with RVG or Van Gelder in the deadwax will beat the Hoffman-Gray stuff.
Gray by himself is much better, but still not quite up to Grundman.
The blissful counterstroke-a considerable new message.
Taste is inarguable.
Edits: 07/28/22
...Chris Bellman, some of Kevin Gray's stuff.
So many greats have passed on. Doug Sax, Stan Ricker.
The blissful counterstroke-a considerable new message.
my preference is always with Grundman over most Hoffman's. Gray is spotty his performance seem to vary by a producer he's working with.
Last year we've done a show down between Mofi Milds KOB and 90s Grundman classic reissue. No contest, Classic won in terms of dynamics and in room presence.
We are going to put the Classic reissue against Chad's Clarity Vinyl reissue. but that has not happened yet.
I guess this is subjective. You prefer Hoffman's *seasoning* over Grundman. I'm the other way around.
The Kind of Blue Mofi is literally a different mix. Also not done by Hoffman and Gray.
But yeah, Compare the Classics Blue Train to the AP 45 rpm by Hoffman and Gray. IMO no contest. And the Grundman may very well be more accurate. Steve Hoffman had some very specific and pointed opinions about what was wrong with the Ven Gelder original recordings for Blue Note. IME you can go right on down the line and the Gray/Hoffman verisons are way better.
Funny thing, I feel that even the MM records fell off a bit when they stopped using Hoffman. Yeah, he seasons the sound. I like it.
*The Kind of Blue Mofi is literally a different mix. Also not done by Hoffman and Gray.*
Yes I know. I assume Mofi stuff is done by one of those engineers in the Youtube video.
*And the Grundman may very well be more accurate.*
We'll never know what accurate is. But I know what sounds good to me.
For Music Matter Blue Note releases I prefer post Hoffman remastering. Incidentally I also like the digital transfer Blue Note did back in the 80s by Ron Mcmaster set. Those I prefer over later Van Gelder digital reissues. ( these are CDs )
IMO his sound is warm and rolled off.
The blissful counterstroke-a considerable new message.
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but as Mo-Fi has now said, they should have told us the whole truth to start with. I would have no problem with that. If the record sounds good, it sound good.
Tre'
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"Still Working the Problem"
his work seems to be a lot more consistent than any of engineers at Mofi.
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