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In Reply to: RE: About that Stanton... posted by dark_dave56 on January 12, 2022 at 12:45:03
the 681 is legendary because of it's tracking ability and wide usage on radio stations by the thousands (probably because of the damping/dusting brush), but it's a moving iron cart and I never thought it was one of the better carts - too much inductance in the windings and it just sounded a bit funny compared to others and the better 881 and equivalent sister Pickering's. My 4000 is a blast of goodness and I'm going to miss it when it's gone, it's my last one.I wouldn't mess with anything other than a new MM for the table, possible vinyl damage is not worth the risk. Most people are using the still in business AT carts although I was never thrilled with their sound and the comparisons were made using my Quad electrostats and I'm very picky. I've had different Signets all the way up the 440 AT's. My MC's are on a different table, Accuphase Talisman Fidelity Research. I will say that AT's do sound good and the tracking is excellent. The other ones to consider I can't remember their names because the recent flood destroyed many papers I've saved listing the contenders of new ones.
There are a couple guys here who may know which are the better recent MM's beside AT's as I've seen them give their praise before although you can't go Wrong with AT's
EDIT- I just remembered one of names of carts- HANA. Many accolades
Edits: 01/13/22Follow Ups:
...it came with the table, but I mounted a NOS Shure M97xe that I had lying around, just for S&Gs. I had bought a "lot" of them from a store-closing (on the cheap) a few years back. I even grabbed a couple JICO SAS styli for them (same deal). That was before they went through the roof, JICO had supply issues, and Shure bailed on the cart business.
I've got a couple NOS Grado Silver 1 and Gold 1 carts lying around too--from the same "going out of business sale". I know about their infamous "Grado hum" on certain tables, so I don't know if they'd work.
I've heard of HANA, but never "heard" a HANA cart. A MC cart that has been recommended to me in the past was ZYX, but I've never heard one of those either. It's tough, unless you know someone that owns one--no dealers around to demo anything, anymore.
"So I talk to the night, I head for the light, try and hold it on the road. Thank God for the man who put
the white lines on the highway"--a very dear friend for decades Michael Stanley (Gee)--RIP
the guy and company who designed the Accuphase AC2 that I've had (3 different ones) went on to design and build the Zyx. There is something about the coils and the winding directions and other stuff I've long forgotten. My most recent NOS one was doing regular MC duty for me and when moving back in after the flood the tonearm went on an unintended ride across the patter and broke the Sapphire pipe cantilever pissing me off to no end.
It was once top rated on TAS and I was always thrilled with it.
Godammit. That's when I spent a few hours mounting my Talisman and that made me feel better anyway. I haven't checked Zyx out lately but I would highly recommend their carts. Incredibly good. Good luck and hope you enjoy whatever you decide, the guys here are very knowledgeable for sure
Don't you hate when that happens? If you're really into vinyl, you've messed-up at least one cart/stylus over the years--it happens. If you say "never", you're either lying, or your TT is for "decorative purposes only".
I whacked one of my Dynavector 23K RS. Fortunately, it was right before I was sending it off to be re-tipped, so I didn't feel soooo bad, but it still pissed me off, for sure. Mine was up-there in hours/age, and I had recently purchased a second one that I knew needed to be re-tipped, so they both went off to SS together--they even "cut me some slack" doing two of the same cart for the same customer. Lesson learned--at my age, ALWAYS put on your glasses before f**king with the TT!
I may have to check-out a ZYX for the SOTA. I don't even know what price-range they're running-in right now. IIRC, the guy that recommended them had paid somewhere around $1,000-1,200 for his, but that was a while back (several/maybe 5 or so years ago).
"So I talk to the night, I head for the light, try and hold it on the road. Thank God for the man who put
the white lines on the highway"--a very dear friend for decades Michael Stanley (Gee)--RIP
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