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No rinse required, right?
"Man, that mouse is Awesome." - Kaemon (referring to Jerry, of Tom and Jerry fame)
Edits: 12/29/21Follow Ups:
I've had some for a very long time and have never rinsed as I recall the instructions saying it didn't need it. But it's been so long maybe I'm not remembering right.
Cheers.
"Man, that mouse is Awesome." - Kaemon (referring to Jerry, of Tom and Jerry fame)
I use L'art and think it does a great job. You absolutely should use a rinse! For any record wash in my opinion. I use this:
I disagree. I've used Disc Doctor Quick Wash and Audio Intelligent One Step and have been very satisfied I'm not leaving any residue. They both work great and shorten the cleaning process.
My own experience goes against that. If ever one solution needed rinsing - a lot - it was disc doctor. Actually DD recommended rinsing.
It seems logical to rinse whatever product one uses anyway.
The Quickwash says no rinsing needed. That was the whole idea. Haven't noticed any difference when I use one- step solutions vs. rinsing with water. In this hobby one has to eventually draw the line on audiophile obsessiveness; this is where I draw it...-
I don't know if you are familiar with the cleaning regimen for contact lenses and the issues associated with "one step/no rub" cleaning solutions?
Much like vinyl cleaning, the contact lens cleaning regimen requires an almost Kirmuss-like obsessiveness!
There was a similar concept with "no rub" single step contact lens cleaning solutions being marketed as a simpler alternative to the standard method of applying a sufactant solution, rubbing each side of the lens with a finger pressing the lens against the palm, rinsing off with saline and then placing the lenses into the container with the disinfectant solution. Additionally, once a month, an additional protein removal tablet needed to be dissolved in the solution to assist in the removal of protein buildup.
You can see how attractive the "no rub" single solution alternative would be! The problem was that the rubbing step is required to remove protein deposits on the lens and to compensate for the lack thereof, the solution was increased in strength. Even the hydrogen peroxide solutions were not effective without the rubbing step and use of protein removal tablets. Not only did the solutions cause problems with eye irritation in some people (myself included with certain brands), but they also resulted in a higher incidence of keratitis and the FDA issued a letter to the manufacturers advising that the use of such solutions should include instructions for rubbing based on the evidence.
By doing the traditional cleaning regimen, I was able to get well over 6 months to nearly 9 months out of my "monthly disposable" lenses without any issue of eye discomfort or protein buildup.
So, in short, just because it is marketed as a "no rinse" alternative does not mean that one isn't necessary or at least beneficial! The proof is in the stylus buildup and background noise - if this is absent, then the product recommendations are valid. Otherwise, there is nothing wrong with adding in a rinse step if someone feels it is necessary. The issue would be in the quality of the water used....
Regards Anthony
"Beauty is Truth, Truth Beauty.." Keats
If you want the cleanest records, you have to rinse. If you can settle for just plain clean records, don't bother rinsing. If you want just playable records, just use a record brush. It's all a matter of degree, how clean you want/need it, how much effort your prepared to put into it.
You can go even further with ultrasonic cleaning and even "record restoration " systems that can take over an hour to clean one record.
Have you done a controlled scientific test on this subject? Comparing records washed with a one step solution and those using other solutions and then water? Have you looked through a high power scope comparing the two? Have you listened to two identical records cleaned by each method and compared the sound? Sorry, unless you've done the above, I give little credence to your opinion. Each to his own.
Hahahaha. I said it was my opinion; I could care less if you give credence to it. Carry on with your non-rinsing .....
"Carry on with your non-rinsing ....."
Thank you! I feel much better now...-
IIRC, it was a rather soapy solution. I always rinsed with distilled water, even with the Loricraft. Can't hurt. If you're not using a vacuum-based method, I would definitely rinse. Twice.I also stopped using it pretty quickly. Didn't find it nearly as effective as Disc Doctor at the time.
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I used it for awhile with my loricraft but got frustrated that the bottle seem to get fouled in a couple months. Switched to AIVS #6 and was very happy with it and a rinse pass.... until I got a Degritter and I realized that I was never really cleaning my records before.
a soap like smell. They also post about the fluid degrading over time with black specks in the concentrate. So, something other than distilled water is contained in the fluid.
It is my belief that anything other than water should be rinsed off after the record has been cleaned.
I liked it the first few times I used it, but when I got around mixing up another batch several months later, it looked suspect as you've noted. Tossed it and moved on. I like their CD cleaner/enhancer though.
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