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Cartridge was the the Hana SH. To get right to the heart of it, I'm going to have to get one. I brought a couple of records over I know well, the German Apple stereo pressing of Magical Mystery Tour and the Speakers Corner pressing of Steely Dan's Can't Buy a Thrill, and the sound was just laugh out loud crazy good. I have heard $10k analog front ends that didn't engage me at nearly this level.
And that is the reason I haven't been around here.
To tell the truth I like Rega tonearms but I am not impressed by their tables. For the money you get a quality tonearm but the table is not impressive.
To tell the truth I have not looked into their recent high end models. My Rega impressions have been formed over a lot of years. I have worked on quite a few Rega tables and none of them impressed me.
They look like a slab of MDF with a DC motor stuck underneath. You get a belt on the pulley included on the motor which gives you 33 and 45 RPM ability.
It's not exactly high tech but, like I said above, you get a very good tonearm for your money. The tonearm also requires many upgrades to make it sing but it can be very good.
You get a very good tonearm on a OK table when you buy a Rega. It's not a bad deal but you have to know what you are buying.
The high end Rega's have never been on my radar. When you get in that price range I don't even think about Rega products.
Rega deserves kudos for selling products that get first time vinyl users a turntable that plays very good sounding music for the money.
Well done Rega...
Life is analog...digital is just samples thereof
Wow! What a backhanded compliment! "What the right hand giveth, the left hand taketh away". When you look at the overengineered much heavier tables, it's easy to dismiss Rega. They simply don't look that impressive. But from experience I can tell you they can sound very good. As I've reported here, I've owned the much more expensive Acustic Raven One for several years and ultimately sold it and bought a Rega RP 6 which I upgraded with a Groovetracer Subplatter. I've been so content with it, that I have no plans to upgrade to their more expensive tables.
And what do you mean, you've worked on quite a few Rega tables? Did you ever own any?
I have never been that impressed by Rega turntables where I would have bought one. I have listened to some different models but never at length. There was nothing there that drew me in.
I am sure many people do find them excellent, I am not one of them. Maybe it was the cartridges on the Rega tables that turned me off.
I'm sure Rega fans probably feel the same way about the tables I have owned over the years. Its OK. I hope you find the Rega tables that you use produce excellent quality tunes. I will stick with what I have.
Life is analog...digital is just samples thereof
Frankly, I wasn't taken with it. It reminded me of the Denon DP-75 that I had for many years. The sound was OK, but it seemed a bit dead, as if there was a light blanket hanging in front of it.
There was detail and clarity, but no depth to it. Soundstage was a bit compressed and smaller than I had expected.
I do understand that the P10 is a different design, but the tonearm is not. I think that not having VTA on the fly is a serious omission to the turntable. The solution for arm height adjustment with split shims is a bit ridiculous.
I tried the P9/RB1000 with a number of cartridges, as that would be an obvious thing to do. I went from a Dynavector DV-20XH to the Rega Apheta. That didn't work out, a Shelter 501 made no improvement either.
I traded in the Rega for a Clearaudio Innovation Compact/Universal tonearm and have been happy with that combination ever since.
I think the Rega sound is something that does appeal to a lot of people, I just didn't happen to be one of them.
Like you I was never a Rega fan. I thought P9 at 5k was a waste of money. It was musically insipid and bland.
But ever since their intro of P6, I think their deck became much more involving. since them I listened to the P8 which I was mighty impressed enjoyed.k btw, I compared it to P9 side by side. What a difference.
A friend got a P10 a while ago ( with Apheta 3 ) and love the deck.
I live in the boonies - about 4 hours north of Toronto. All of my musical purchases are based on what's available and on reviews.
That may sound ridiculous, but the option of "try it at home" just doesn't exist.
I understand the P10 is well thought of as compared to the P9, but then remind myself of all the glowing reviews the P9 received from so many.
I have a Clearaudio Innovation Compact now with the Universal tonearm and the VTA lifter. I like the sound of it, it's likely the best turntable I have owned.
However, after having recorded over 1,500 LPs and not buying them any more, I can see a future without any turntable.
Supposedly the Planar 8 blows the P9 away and the Planar 10 is worth the money over the Planar 8.
You say your P9 sounded like your DP-75 well how do we know both those tables allowed you to hear the support you had them on or the phono section you were using or the rest of the equipment you were playing them through? That's why they sounded the same.
Then we also don't know that the ClearAudio masked the sound of those other things, or just wasn't effected by them, and you just like the way that TT sounds.
I thought this was an Audio forum where we could discuss things. Unfortunately, it's too late for me to delete my post as it's been replied to, but I do apologize for upsetting you.
It won't happen again.
Excuse me for challenging the veracity of your comments. Instead you dodge by playing the apologetic victimizer card. That gets a B- for blowing smoke.
But I could be wrong and perhaps they are identical?
It does. Not much different from the RB1000, apparently. I think the bearings are different, although I'm unclear as to how that can be improved.
and change, it sure oughta be....
So what would that $5,000 turntable be?
$1,000 turntable plus $4,000 in records not allowed, just best or your choice of $5,000 turntables.
As this is 'Turntable Jeopardy!', anyone can play!
No, I don't think so. It was a reference to Jeopardy's Alex Trebeck.
Ah- I had no idea. It's so easy to look stupid on the internet....
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
"I'll take turntables for $5,000, Aaron." just doesn't seem right.
And I really dig it.
The problem is not that there is evil in the world, the problem is that there is good. Because otherwise, who would care?
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