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In Reply to: RE: Those are so much better than the junk that is usually sold to newbies. posted by John-from Seattle on February 19, 2021 at 09:53:08
The real comparison is to Crosley and the entry level AT 120 IMHO, and there it becomes a clear winner, but once used is thrown into the mix, it's anyone's game.
I will tell you my bizarre Rega experience of the last year. I had a Rega RP6 with Exact as a backup table to play thrift store records. It was my second RP6, having sold the first one because we never really got along. When I sold the Linn's and SOTA, the RP6 became my primary table, but I just did not like something about it. Kind of a pervasive darkness that I remembered from my first RP6 and my RP3.
I have owned Regas since the early 1980s and am a real fan, trying to always have at least one around. At any rate I saw a NAD 533 for $100 and thought I would buy it to harvest the RB250 tonearm off of it for an idler project that I am working on. The NAD 533 is an old style Planar 2 with an MDF platter rather than the thin glass of the Planar2.
You probably know the rest of the story, I preferred it by miles to the RP6, not that anyone else would. Sold the RP6 and bought the heavier glass platter of the Planar 3, as well as the metal end stub from an RB 300 arm. The final piece was that I had a Rega tungsten counterweight and some spacers in my parts drawer. For short change it is great. As it happened, a friend offered me his RB250 arm with Origin Live end stub and counter weight as well as Incognito Cardas retire and an Origin Live VTA adjuster. That arm is a step up from the original one, but I could happily live with the other. Now that I have an extra RB250 I'm looking for a more ambitious table with a Rega cut out.
Follow Ups:
that few of the Japanese budget decks 50 years ago were actually made by the company that sold them. Most likely, they were CEC products. Look at the tone arms.
CEC was just the Hanpin of the 1970s.
The problem is not that there is evil in the world, the problem is that there is good. Because otherwise, who would care?
That's interesting. I don't find the current P6 dark, but I also run my phono stage with Grado Prestige Green 1 at 82K, the old Kenwood with that cart and same phono stage (a Muffsy PP4 came off darker, even set at 82K). Though the real reason was it bloated in the lower mids/upper bass, lending a darnkness to the overall sound, plus it did appear to roll off the treble a little too.As to Fluance, yeah, sounds about right. It's really just the same table with or without the phono stage and a feature or two, but identical in all other respects.
Edits: 02/19/21
I still have a soft spot for the P3-2000 and the P25.
That's very true, all but the dust cover and hinges were revised in this iteration.
I'm spinning Gaucho on it now. :-)
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The problem is not that there is evil in the world, the problem is that there is good. Because otherwise, who would care?
.....some of the more A list, flashy, drummers. But what a career. I think this one is one of the best Tone Poets for music as well as sound.
I have a CD of "Standards" by Morgan, which is another one where they had the performances in the vault for 20 years, or so, before releasing them. Was it really such an embarrassment of riches at Blue Note that they could just shelve this stuff forever? It boggles my little mind.
The record store had the TP for $30 and a used Japanese pressing complete with obi for $65. Needless to say...
The problem is not that there is evil in the world, the problem is that there is good. Because otherwise, who would care?
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.....pressings. Peggy Lee Black Coffee, the two by Nina Simone and Out of the Cool. I'm out of money until I sell some gear.
I did buy a Tangospinner sub platter and feet for my FrankenRega off of Audiomart this morning. Fingers crossed.
I've already got a boatload of Nina Simone stuff, couple of them are UMG reissues pressed in Holland.
The problem is not that there is evil in the world, the problem is that there is good. Because otherwise, who would care?
...opined that the Pure Pleasure Out Of The Cool was superior to the new UMG for the same $. I have not checked that out yet, but my experience with PP is not so good so I might just go with the UMG.
According to Michael Fremer, the Verve/AP reissue of Out of the Cool will be cut all analog from the original master tape.
Don't think I've got anything from Pure Pleasure, but the reissue of Roy Haynes' Out of the Afternoon from Verve/AP is outstanding.
The problem is not that there is evil in the world, the problem is that there is good. Because otherwise, who would care?
:-) Which Morgan LP? I only have Cornbread at the moment and it's the Tone Poet copy I picked up last year, or in 2019.
Sometimes one just needs to get some of that Dan goin' :-)
Just finished side 2 and am awaiting a pizza I just made to cook and will have some red wine to wash it all down with.
Nt
Very cool. Just finished dinner and watching Ron Pratt on YouTube rescue a car that almost slid down a ravine in the snow while I ate. My Friday night ritual.
Nt
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