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In Reply to: RE: Fremer's ZENITH ANGLE CORRECTION or have we all gone crazy. posted by ecl876 on February 08, 2021 at 21:09:26
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I believe that DSD128 and DSD256 are both very accurate digital formats that can sound even better than vinyl. Most of my favorite LPs have been copied to DSD128 and they sound wonderful to me. Furthermore, I'm even more impressed with the sound of DSD256 from internet dealers like Native DSD. Consequently, I've basically given up on vinyl in favor of hi-rez PCM and DSD.On the other hand, Fremer is probably right about those vinyl enthusiasts who spend $5000 or more on a phono cartridge. They might as well send their cartridge in for evaluation so they can see just how much money they've wasted on an imperfectly manufactured cartridge.
Best regards,
John ElisonPS. I owned a cartridge once that had gross inter-channel phase shift. I discovered it while playing a mono LP and I heard the cymbals drop down in volume each time I engaged the mono switch on my preamp. None of my other cartridges exhibited this problem. After measuring the cartridge with my oscilloscope, I discovered the phase-shift began at about 800-Hz and increase to 90-degrees by 20-kHz. The cartridge was a Dynavector XV-1.
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"I'm even more impressed with the sound of DSD256 from internet dealers like Native DSD. Consequently, I've basically given up on vinyl in favor of hi-rez PCM and DSD."But those are different mastering jobs. Apples and oranges. I think there's a distinct possibility that you just like the new mastering engineer's "sweetening" better than the original mastering engineer's "sweetening" who did the vinyl you're familiar with.
As a mastering engineer I can make the best two track master tape sound awful if I want to. The last thing I am going to do is make my master file sound like the tape. Or, if I'm starting with a digital file, my mastering job will not sound like that file. It's hard to get a paycheck if all you do is a straight transfer.
Tre'
Have Fun and Enjoy the Music
"Still Working the Problem"
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and I didn't know you were doing any mastering, so I take your word as one of actual experience. Nice post Tre'.
As an example of the variables just with vinyl alone, I have several JCI collections of 'Rockin' Sixties' etc where the vinyl pressings are taken from the 2 track mixdowns without any mastering. Were they lazy or trying to save money? I don't know, but each track done in different studios by different engineers sound like they need SOME kind of mastering.
Some might say originality, I say blah. Tone control time for each cut.
THE SAME VARIABLES APPLY TO ANYTHING DIGITAL, REGARDLESS OF WHO & WHERE MASTERED.
"I didn't know you were doing any mastering"
I'm not anymore but I did master quite a few CD's in my days working in recording studios. Nothing famous.
Tre'
Have Fun and Enjoy the Music
"Still Working the Problem"
Haven't we heard all this before in some form? 🤔 it seems to me you were either giving up or hardly ever listening to vinyl about ten years ago. Yet, here you are! Hope to see you in another ten years - if I'm still around!
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Your next move: hi-rez MCh! - then Dolby Atmos! You're going down the primrose path now! ;-)
not everyone uses a ZENITH turntable and cartridge so ...
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OT ... my parents had that exact set-up ... it sounded pretty good playing Zeppelin 1 to my young ears ... which were admittedly somewhat 'enhanced' at that particular point in time .... but still
regards,
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