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Have to disagree. I had a Widow on a Technics SL-150 MK2 and it was

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In Reply to: RE: I had a Black Widow back in the 80s, and you are right. posted by Quadzilla on August 14, 2020 at 18:17:34

a very good combo. Used both a Shure V15 Type IV with Jico SAS stylus and a Grace F9E.

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RE: Have to disagree. I had a Widow on a Technics SL-150 MK2 and it was - Quadzilla 03:58:44 08/15/20 (8)
My only real complaint was that there were only a very few cartridges that worked well with it. That wasn't a real problem back in the 80s when low-mass cartridges were believed to be the answer, but most cartridges today would be unsuitable. I certainly wouldn't recommend a moving coil with it.

Sorry, Donald, there just isn't enough of Mount Rushmore left to carve that bowl of mashed potatoes on your head, but maybe we could get them to do your tiny hands.
- The Widow was a 3.5g effective mass arm. - Opus 33 1/3 04:11:46 08/15/20 (7)
  Of course, only high compliance carts worked well with it. It wasn't the mass of the cart, so much as the compliance. In fact, the Widow and possibly the 5g SME III were the only arms capable of handling the original ADC XLM, which had insanely high dynamic compliance.
  
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  - RE: The Widow was a 3.5g effective mass arm. - Quadzilla 04:15:34 08/15/20 (6)
    That is correct. I used an Ortofon LM30 with mine, then a Grace F9E. High-compliance was deemed to be the way to do it back then, but thankfully that thinking is no longer in vogue.
    
    Sorry, Donald, there just isn't enough of Mount Rushmore left to carve that bowl of mashed potatoes on your head, but maybe we could get them to do your tiny hands.
    - Oh, there are plenty of high compliance carts being made today. /nt\ - Opus 33 1/3 09:21:20 08/15/20 (5)
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      - Not my preference, but ... - Quadzilla 10:03:06 08/15/20 (4)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Oh, there are plenty of high compliance carts being made today. /nt\ posted by Opus 33 1/3 on August 15, 2020 at 09:21:20
        
        I still have my Grace F-9E cartridge body. I won't ever get around to replace the stylus, but it was one of my all-time favourites. I still use an F-10L MOMC on my Linn Sondek.
        
        Sorry, Donald, there just isn't enough of Mount Rushmore left to carve that bowl of mashed potatoes on your head, but maybe we could get them to do your tiny hands.
        
        My F9E was my favorite MM. Wish I'd never sold it. Ditto the Widow/SL-150. /nt\ - Opus 33 1/3 16:57:04 08/15/20 (3)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Not my preference, but ... posted by Quadzilla on August 15, 2020 at 10:03:06
        
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        RE: My F9E was my favorite MM. Wish I'd never sold it. Ditto the Widow/SL-150. /nt\ - Quadzilla 17:13:21 08/15/20 (2)
        
        In Reply to: RE: My F9E was my favorite MM. Wish I'd never sold it. Ditto the Widow/SL-150. /nt\ posted by Opus 33 1/3 on August 15, 2020 at 16:57:04
        
        I was glad to get rid of the Black Widow, but I really wish that I had kept my F-9E Ruby. I have an F-9 body still and I understand that Soundsmith sells replacement styli for it, but ordering anything from the US is a big problem now.
        
        Sorry, Donald, there just isn't enough of Mount Rushmore left to carve that bowl of mashed potatoes on your head, but maybe we could get them to do your tiny hands.
        
        I had a SS stylus for my F9E, but sold the cart before trying it. Dumb. /nt\ - Opus 33 1/3 17:56:26 08/15/20 (1)
        
        In Reply to: RE: My F9E was my favorite MM. Wish I'd never sold it. Ditto the Widow/SL-150. /nt\ posted by Quadzilla on August 15, 2020 at 17:13:21
        
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        RE: I had a SS stylus for my F9E, but sold the cart before trying it. Dumb. /nt\ - Quadzilla 11:10:23 08/16/20 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: I had a SS stylus for my F9E, but sold the cart before trying it. Dumb. /nt\ posted by Opus 33 1/3 on August 15, 2020 at 17:56:26
        
        I sold my F-9 body this morning, but I would rather see someone enjoy it than to have it sit in a drawer for another 30 years.
        I don't really have a suitable tonearm for it, and I have plenty of other cartridges to play with.
        
        Sorry, Donald, there just isn't enough of Mount Rushmore left to carve that bowl of mashed potatoes on your head, but maybe we could get them to do your tiny hands.

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