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In Reply to: RE: Vinyl article posted by Ryan T on July 31, 2017 at 19:24:02
I've said this before and will accept the flack it generates again, but I don't like digital. So much so that the few CDs I've been given as gifts have been transfered to cassette. Transferring digital to analogue smooths out the harsh digital hash, another reason recording in digital for manufacturing vinyl still sounds better than the digital release itself.
I've demenstrated this affect to numerous people and all have agreed the cassette copy was more "musically enjoyable". Music flows, binary 1's and 0's do not, it's pretty simple to see why analogue is superior when it's about the music.
Edit: Our ears have had millenia to evolve hearing and processing analogue sound, natural sounds are analogue, digital only exists as a construct of mankind, it's unnatural. Our ear/brains discern this as unnatural and trigger our fight or flight response causing a feeling of unease. Some may not be as attuned to this response so claim not to hear this reality, but many do and why we just don't like digital.
"Transferring digital to analogue smooths out the harsh digital hash, another reason recording in digital for manufacturing vinyl still sounds better than the digital release itself. "
Think about that for a moment....isn't that just telling you that the DAC used in the cutting process is superior to what you have??
"Beauty is Truth, Truth Beauty.." Keats
"Think about that for a moment....isn't that just telling you that the DAC used in the cutting process is superior to what you have??"
So, you're saying the DAC used in the recording process is better than the DAC in my turntable? Last time I looked my tables didn't need one lol. Obviously you didn't understand the part you quoted.
It's been mentioned as part of the digital is better camp that most master tapes used to master records are digital. As such, the argument that vinyl is superior to digital doesn't make sense as its origin is digital. It's this erroneous thinking I was addressing, that an analogue copy of a digital signal will carry over the digital artfacts, this is not the case.
As for returning the original digital signal from analogue back to digital without these artifacts reappearing is naive at best. Binary 1's and 0's are what they are, an unnatural construct of man, nothing can change that. And if you think that with close to 5 decades of interest in this hobby I never recorded a cassette, or lp to digital you would be mestaken. I was one of the earliest adopters of everything digital, even spending $1000 on a laser disc player to rent discs to record on VHS. Making copies of my music has always been a high priority on my list.
"Obviously you didn't understand the part you quoted. "
Nope, not at all.
How else were you comparing the Digital copy to the LP?
"I was one of the earliest adopters of everything digital, even spending $1000 on a laser disc player to rent discs to record on VHS"
Althought the soundtrack on NTSC LD players was in PCM (analogue for PAL due to bandwidth restrictions resulting from the available storage capacity), the video content was analogue.
"Beauty is Truth, Truth Beauty.." Keats
"Nope, not at all.
How else were you comparing the Digital copy to the LP?"
Apparently you didn't understand.
If you want anecdotal evidence I could sit here and list "all" of the different digital sources I've heard, then list "all" of the analogue reproduction equipment I've heard, but the lists would be loooooooong. In every case I've preferred analogue, and not just a few here have expressed the same, I guess we all have inferior equipment. Again, as I stated, not everyone is bothered by the unnatural quality of digital, then again many like the sound of the accordion too lol.
Not everyone is bothered by fluorescent lighting either, but many are. It's been shown to cause a sense of unease, restlessness, etc., this is especially bothersome to some children as most schools use this as the primary means of illumination.
If your not bothered by the issues with fluorescent lighting then you're among the many rather than the few. But just because you're not sensitive to this issue doesn't mean others can't be. The same is true with the reproduction of an analogue source (the original event) reproduced digitally
This horse has been beat to death. Those that aren't sensitive to digitals issues will never be able to understand why those that are, are. It reminds me of attempting to describe to someone what a banana tastes like.
Here's what you didn't demonstrate to yourself or anyone else. You didn't take your newly recorded cassette tape and then re-record it back to digital using a high-quality digital recorder. If you had done that, you would know that the digital copy of your cassette sounded exactly like your cassette. Try it! You'll understand what I'm talking about.
It's easy to make a digital recording sound just like a cassette tape if you want. It's also easy to make a digital recording sound just like a vinyl record.
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