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In Reply to: RE: WSJ: Why Vinyl's Boom Is Over posted by SamA on July 22, 2017 at 08:41:08
Buying mainstream pop music of today on vinyl would be like buying cartoons on 4K video.........
Unadulterated recordings of music by artists of high standards is what has driven vinyl playback during its heyday.... Unless we miraculously get a lot of this back, the sonic advantages of vinyl playback will be blunted by overprocessed music and recordings.
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Current artists. Incredible analog production standards.
You're way too focused on the technical aspects and assuming that the things you value are the only things that matter. People enjoy LPs for a lot of reasons that have nothing to do with sound, gear, and measurements, and that's especially true of the younger people buying LPs over the last few years.
They like LPs and they don't give a damn about playback. So what? Just accept that and move on.
Guess I live in a cave??? You are right about one thing the bell curve can be told what is cool and run with their wallet's open. I enjoy building massive turntables and arms but if it did not sound better, I would build something else. 20 minute playback and cleaning does not float my boat. Well back to my cave where people give a shit about real music.
Enjoy the ride
Tom
"Unadulterated recordings of music by artists of high standards is what has driven vinyl playback during its heyday"
Curious, I have come across lots of crap recordings of artists and repressings / reissues of fine albums from back in the heyday.
1. You don't think Pinocchio, Snow White or any of the Disney classics would benefit from 4K digital video?
2. What on earth is an "unabulterated" recording?
3. The advantages of vinyl, general inherent euphonic colorations of vinyl as a medium and specific euphonic colorations of specific playback gear will work on just about any recording.
The key is will the vinyl medium lure the mainstream music audience to try it......
Another big obstacle is setup..... This isn't something a newbie can just do on his own...... If I had the resources, I'd start a worldwide network of classes to teach people to set up vinyl rigs. (Not only the basic setup, but understanding the physics behind it.) A poorly set-up vinyl rig loses the sonic advantages the medium has.
Until that worldwide setup is established, Michael Fremer's DVD on turntable setup does a pretty nice job.
You're right Todd.....setup is critical. I've been doing it for many years, and yet I fine tune it for days. Some turntables now come factory ready right out of the box...but that's probably not for this group.
"Some turntables now come factory ready right out of the box...but that's probably not for this group."
Perhaps not, but it can be a real boon to those new to vinyl, who don't have the knowledge or skills to set up a TT/arm/cartridge, and just want to be able to play LPs. I doubt there would be anything more frustrating than having to deal with the intricacies of this setup process. Not everyone is interested in fussing with something as involved as this. Of course, they could always depend upon a dealer to do it for them-if they can find one locally.
I don't get these devices except for ADC via USB. Do they sound better than digital anyways? Is the analog sound somehow preserved as the TT output is digitally converted and broadcast on bluetooth or connected directly to small speakers? Why would someone buy vinyl to play on this device when they can have the digital version for so much less $$ ?
I guess I'm just not technically sophisticated enough to understand what you're getting at nor do I find your post particularly responsive to mine.
In the simplest possible terms, I will only say that, because they believe the sound quality of vinyl, compared to digital, is richer and less sterile, many people have always stayed with it and many others, including younger people, have discovered the merits of analog for the first time.
I recall back in the day a Marantz receiver and a BSR Mcdonald turntable were the hot set up, not too far off what you were thinking.
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