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FYI, friends...
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It's true many modern LP pressings are underwhelming. But that has nothing to do with the old analog vs. digital discussion. In fact, the Lp is the only physical medium capable of reproducing higher bit rates. SACD goes up to 24/96, the record will play back anything that's in those grooves. 32/384, DSD, DXD, what have you.
Of course you can stream higher bit rate music. My Yamaha streamer i bought new a couple of years ago is worth zip now because it doesn't do Spotify. My ca. 1970 Sony TT i got in the thrift for a song is worth a couple of hundred Euro now. And, you need a network, a PC or laptop, a smart phone or tablet as remote, a NAS, a DAC. All stuff that will lose its value quickly.
"The torture never stops"Greetings Freek.
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Why Vinyl's Boom Is Over
As purists complain about low quality and high prices, vinyl sales taper off; Gillian Welch and David Rawlings cut their own records.
By Neil Shah
July 22, 2017 7:00 a.m. ET
Gillian Welch and David Rawlings were disappointed by the quality of vinyl production today so they bought their own lathe to cut records themselves.
Folk music duo Gillian Welch and David Rawlings were frustrated by the quality of vinyl LPs being produced today. So they decided to cut their records themselves.
"What people do nowadays is take a digital file and just run vinyl off that," says Mr. Rawlings, a lanky musician who plays a 1935 Epiphone Olympic guitar. "In my mind, if we were going to do it, I wanted to do it the way the records I love were made—from analog tapes."
The Nashville-based singer-songwriters, who gained fame with "O Brother, Where Art Thou" in 2000, spent $100,000 to buy their own record-cutting contraption in 2013. The cutting lathe makes the master copy of a record—the one sent to a pressing plant for mass reproduction. The couple's first LP, a re-issue of their 2011 Grammy-nominated "The Harrow & the Harvest," arrives July 28.
Ms. Welch and Mr. Rawlings have gone to extreme lengths to solve a problem many music aficionados say is an open secret in the music industry: Behind the resurgence of vinyl records in recent years, the quality of new LPs often stinks.
Old LPs were cut from analog tapes—that's why they sound so high quality. But the majority of today's new and re-issued vinyl albums—around 80% or more, several experts estimate—start from digital files, even lower-quality CDs. These digital files are often loud and harsh-sounding, optimized for ear-buds, not living rooms. So the new vinyl LP is sometimes inferior to what a consumer hears on a CD.
"They're re-issuing [old albums] and not using the original tapes" to save time and money, says Michael Fremer, editor of AnalogPlanet.com and one of America's leading audio authorities. "They have the tapes. They could take them out and have it done right—by a good engineer. They don't."
As more consumers discover this disconnect, vinyl sales are starting to slow. In the first half of 2015, sales of vinyl records jumped 38% compared to the same period the prior year, to 5.6 million units, Nielsen Music data show. A year later, growth slowed to 12%. This year, sales rose a modest 2%. "It's flattening out," says Steve Sheldon, president of Los Angeles pressing plant Rainbo Records. While he doesn't see a bubble bursting—plants are busy—he believes vinyl is "getting close to plateauing."
When labels advertise a re-issued classic as mastered from the original analog tapes, the source can be more complicated. Sometimes they are a hodge-podge of digital and analog. Often "labels are kind of hiding what's really happening," says Russell Elevado, a veteran studio engineer and producer who has earned two Grammys working with R&B singer D'Angelo.
Mr. Rawlings says a Netherlands-based label, Music On Vinyl, used a CD to make vinyl copies of Ms. Welch's 2003 album "Soul Journey," getting a license from Warner Music Group. Ms. Welch and Mr. Rawlings, who didn't have rights to release the album in the U.K., found out when fans saw the vinyl selling on the Internet. They successfully convinced Music On Vinyl to destroy the 500 copies that had been pressed, reimbursing the firm 3,300 euros for its costs. "This is commonplace," Mr. Rawlings says. A representative of Music On Vinyl could not be reached.
Today's digital files can sound fantastic—especially for hip-hop and dance music. But engineers say they need to be mastered separately for vinyl in order to have the right sound. To meet deadlines for releasing new albums, labels can't always cut vinyl to the absolute best audio quality, says Mr. Fields, who declined to discuss specific examples on the record because it might alienate others in the industry.
Another culprit for vinyl's slowdown is cost: Mr. Sheldon estimates vinyl has gone up four to six dollars per album in recent years. So-called "180-gram" or "audiophile" records, marketed as higher quality, can cost $30 to $40. Their heaviness makes them more stable during playing, Mr. Sheldon says, and such records might last longer. But any sound differences are "very marginal."
As low-quality vinyl proliferates, Ms. Welch and Mr. Rawlings are taking the high road. It took five years to get their record-cutting equipment up and running. Once they bought their lathe, they found a tech who gave up his job at a particle accelerator for the new job. "The scientists who developed how to cut good stereo were the brightest people in our country at that time," Mr. Rawlings says. With their trusted mastering engineer Stephen Marcussen, the team customized the lathe for Ms. Welch and Mr. Rawlings' sparse, haunting acoustic music.
Songs are generally recorded in a studio digitally today. (In Ms. Welch and Mr. Rawlings' case, they chose to record using analog tape.) A mastering engineer then fine-tunes the recorded music to ensure the album, often the product of myriad studios, sounds consistent. Using a lathe, the music is engraved onto a "lacquer," the technical term for the master copy from which copies are pressed in plants.
A cutting lathe, like this one, is a rare, arcane piece of equipment. It makes a 'lacquer,' or original copy of a record, which is sent to a pressing plant to be duplicated. Only a few technicians still know how to fix cutting lathes. Most of them have died. A cutting lathe, like this one, is a rare, arcane piece of equipment. It makes a 'lacquer,' or original copy of a record, which is sent to a pressing plant to be duplicated. Only a few technicians still know how to fix cutting lathes. Most of them have died. PHOTO: BISHOP MARCUSSEN The goal is to put as much sonic information on the record as possible. A high-quality LP can give listeners the sensation of instruments or sounds occupying different points in space—a "three-dimensional" quality that Mr. Fremer says evokes a live performance. Ms. Welch likens it to the difference between "fresh basil and dried basil."
The vinyl version of "The Harrow & the Harvest" is "mesmerizing," says Mr. Fremer, who heard a test copy. On Aug. 11, the couple, which often records as "Gillian Welch," will release a new album, "Poor David's Almanack," under the "David Rawlings" name, before re-releasing more old albums. Having launched a label and souped up a derelict Nashville studio years ago, they may cut and re-issue albums by other artists, they said, effectively becoming a full-service, vertically-integrated—if tiny—old-school music company.
Ms. Welch and Mr. Rawlings, whose careers took off as the CD era crashed into the age of iTunes, feel like putting out vinyl now brings them full circle. "It's like an author who has only ever released an e-Book," Mr. Rawlings says. "You see a book in print and bound and you feel like you've finally done what you were aiming to do."
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It is a real crime to the medium to treat the music the same as digital. And it's not even equalized properly for full range audio most of the time (boombox/ear bud compression), so when it goes through RIAA filter, there's nothing left to equalize, or worse, limited data in the low and high frequencies get boosted, further adding to the hash. So the end result is an LP the sounds WORSE than the source CD mix (grrr). I fear if these types of pressings turn off the market, then there will be less incentive to continue releasing vinyl.
Thank goodness for the producers who know this and create a separate analog recording pathway. Once the analog signal is gone, it's gone for good, with all the sonic goodness it preserves. Now, unfortunately, only the early pressings of vinyl really benefit from this. The master tape iron oxide particles get damaged with each playing and the tape itself gets stiff/brittle over time, so the subsequent pressings are progressively corrected over time by the sound engineer. If you ever have the opportunity, listen to a first run pressing and compare to one 20 years later. (I had the opportunity to hear this by comparing an original mono first run pressing of Kind of Blue with a much later re-release. It was amazing to hear the loss of high frequency clarity and the loss of imaging)
As an oldster, I bought, bought, bought over the last ten years as old stuff I wanted came available. Now I've got it all. The last year or so I've bought very little while the price creep online and the upping of minimum amount for free shipping continued. Now there's 20% discounts left and right and the free shipping (Soundstage Direct) has gone down again, indicating a tougher market. Then there's the Crosley tables making a quick buck in the stores while no doubt leaving beginners an impression that affordable vinyl reproduction has not changed since the sixties with pops, rumble, suffering fidelity and, God forbid, built in speakers and phono pre. On top of that, good quality pressings have limited runs and short availability. With all this I can believe that vinyl sales are stalling out - as we all knew they would eventually. Time will tell.
The allure has waned for me personally. A few years ago I was buying up everything I could get my hands on, yard sales, record stores, amazon, etc. etc. A couple of years ago I got a very nice DAC in my system, a Tidal subscription, and an HD Tracks account. Does it sound as good as vinyl? No, but a lot of times I am finding music I want to listen to very easily and quickly. When I "seriously" listen to music, I use my turntable, but much of the time, Tidal/DAC works great. I have bought maybe 5 LPs in the past 12-months.
is that when I went to sell a few records recently ahead of moving later this year, I didn't get very much for my stuff. (Same thing with trying to sell some CDs on eBay.)
And the Rochester, N.Y., shop (Lakeshore Record Exchange) I'd like to visit once in a while announced last week that they're closing. The owner said no one wants physical copies anymore and that downloads and streaming killed the business.
"The owner said no one wants physical copies anymore and that downloads and streaming killed the business."
I live in St Paul, Minnesota, not too far from a store called The Electric Fetus in Minneapolis (They also have a store in Duluth, MN.) and I have to say that every time I go there the place is packed, especially at the ever-expanding new & used vinyl section. They've been in business since 1968 and have always stayed on top and ahead of trends. I see no signs that they're in any jeopardy, probably because the place is well managed and also has the best quality, reasonably priced used LPs I've ever seen. There are several other stores in the Twin Cities area that have migrated from almost exclusively CD sales to vinyl and also appear to be more than holding their own. One store did close recently, but they were very heavily invested in folk and blues recordings.
I would also point out that I moved here from Kansas City-not necessarily the hippest spot in the USA-several months ago and over the past couple of years at least 4 new & used vinyl shops have opened there and seem to be thriving.
I'm not going to suggest that there won't ever be a dip in vinyl sales, but clearly solid management is key, as is the case in any industry.
By the way, you didn't say where or how you sold your LPs, but if it was to any retailer, you're never going to get what you think your items are worth. And obviously, a lot depends upon what you're trying to sell, condition, etc.
Buying mainstream pop music of today on vinyl would be like buying cartoons on 4K video.........
Unadulterated recordings of music by artists of high standards is what has driven vinyl playback during its heyday.... Unless we miraculously get a lot of this back, the sonic advantages of vinyl playback will be blunted by overprocessed music and recordings.
Current artists. Incredible analog production standards.
You're way too focused on the technical aspects and assuming that the things you value are the only things that matter. People enjoy LPs for a lot of reasons that have nothing to do with sound, gear, and measurements, and that's especially true of the younger people buying LPs over the last few years.
They like LPs and they don't give a damn about playback. So what? Just accept that and move on.
Guess I live in a cave??? You are right about one thing the bell curve can be told what is cool and run with their wallet's open. I enjoy building massive turntables and arms but if it did not sound better, I would build something else. 20 minute playback and cleaning does not float my boat. Well back to my cave where people give a shit about real music.
Enjoy the ride
Tom
"Unadulterated recordings of music by artists of high standards is what has driven vinyl playback during its heyday"
Curious, I have come across lots of crap recordings of artists and repressings / reissues of fine albums from back in the heyday.
1. You don't think Pinocchio, Snow White or any of the Disney classics would benefit from 4K digital video?
2. What on earth is an "unabulterated" recording?
3. The advantages of vinyl, general inherent euphonic colorations of vinyl as a medium and specific euphonic colorations of specific playback gear will work on just about any recording.
The key is will the vinyl medium lure the mainstream music audience to try it......
Another big obstacle is setup..... This isn't something a newbie can just do on his own...... If I had the resources, I'd start a worldwide network of classes to teach people to set up vinyl rigs. (Not only the basic setup, but understanding the physics behind it.) A poorly set-up vinyl rig loses the sonic advantages the medium has.
Until that worldwide setup is established, Michael Fremer's DVD on turntable setup does a pretty nice job.
You're right Todd.....setup is critical. I've been doing it for many years, and yet I fine tune it for days. Some turntables now come factory ready right out of the box...but that's probably not for this group.
"Some turntables now come factory ready right out of the box...but that's probably not for this group."
Perhaps not, but it can be a real boon to those new to vinyl, who don't have the knowledge or skills to set up a TT/arm/cartridge, and just want to be able to play LPs. I doubt there would be anything more frustrating than having to deal with the intricacies of this setup process. Not everyone is interested in fussing with something as involved as this. Of course, they could always depend upon a dealer to do it for them-if they can find one locally.
I don't get these devices except for ADC via USB. Do they sound better than digital anyways? Is the analog sound somehow preserved as the TT output is digitally converted and broadcast on bluetooth or connected directly to small speakers? Why would someone buy vinyl to play on this device when they can have the digital version for so much less $$ ?
I guess I'm just not technically sophisticated enough to understand what you're getting at nor do I find your post particularly responsive to mine.
In the simplest possible terms, I will only say that, because they believe the sound quality of vinyl, compared to digital, is richer and less sterile, many people have always stayed with it and many others, including younger people, have discovered the merits of analog for the first time.
I recall back in the day a Marantz receiver and a BSR Mcdonald turntable were the hot set up, not too far off what you were thinking.
But I may be dying soon, so there is still hope!
In summary, it highlights the poor reception of (new) vinyl cut from digital. It explores why this may have a detrimental effect on perceived values.
"The vinyl version of "The Harrow & the Harvest" is "mesmerizing," says Mr. Fremer, who heard a test copy. On Aug. 11, the couple, which often records as "Gillian Welch," will release a new album, "Poor David's Almanack," under the "David Rawlings" name, before re-releasing more old albums. Having launched a label and souped up a derelict Nashville studio years ago, they may cut and re-issue albums by other artists, they said, effectively becoming a full-service, vertically-integrated—if tiny—old-school music company.
Ms. Welch and Mr. Rawlings, whose careers took off as the CD era crashed into the age of iTunes, feel like putting out vinyl now brings them full circle. "It's like an author who has only ever released an e-Book," Mr. Rawlings says. "You see a book in print and bound and you feel like you've finally done what you were aiming to do.""
Wall Street Journal: [24/07/2017, accessed via FB @ https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-vinyls-boom-is-over-1500721202]
Big J
"... only a very few individuals understand as yet that personal salvation is a contradiction in terms."
Who made the WSJ an expert on the subject? I don't have a subscription to the WSJ and don't care enough to get one.
I am like others here who made their listening decisions based on their own experiences. I tried CD when it came out. I wanted it to work but it sucked. I stopped listening to music until I figured out why. As soon as I switched back to vinyl, I started listening again.
If mass numbers of buyers stop buying vinyl because of what the WSJ says, those people deserve MP3s. Those people can also listen to music over the speaker in their iPhone or via a crappy bluetooth speaker. If that's good enough for them...fine. They are not going to be high-end customers anyway.
Vinyl requires an educated consumer who takes care of their LPs and their playback equipment. The rest of the people can complain about the poor sound quality via vinyl. I will clean their old LPs and enjoy quality sound.
Ed
We don't shush around here!
Life is analog...digital is just samples thereof
I can get back to $.25 bulk album purchases at yard sales? Now everything is rare and collectable. It doesn't make the risk worth the reward anymore.
Does anyone, serious about music, buy recordings because the medium in which it is conveyed is "in" or not?
I am an old dude who began collecting music for home listening when LPs were the medium of choice. There were no viable alternatives, by which I mean other media that made available as wide a range of music that was good-sounding and inexpensive. I still have most of the recordings I bought then and enjoy them every day.
When CDs came out, I bought a CD player and have a considerable collection of CDs. I listen to them, and enjoy them every day.
All the hoopla about vinyl being in, out, resurgent, waning, etc. is irrelevant to me. I go to stores that sell LPs and buy them at about the same rate that I buy newly issued or used CDs. One reason I keep my LPs is that there is so much wonderful music that is unavailable in other mediums. I want still to be able to listen to this music as I like.
If people want to get into vinyl or abandon vinyl because it is trendy, they're welcome. To me it's about the available music I want to listen to.
I must admit to a little bit of bias towards the entire LP package. Libretti, photos, artist information, essays by musicologists, producers, artists, historians in large format, easy to read inserts or covers of LPs adds to my enjoyment. Reading such materials in six point type on a CD booklet, copied from the vinyl version with no correspondence to what's on the individual CD discs is not as enjoyable.
Then there's the issue of sound quality. I have recorded music on vinyl and on CDs that sounds fabulous and music on these two carriers that sounds horrible. This is not a function of the medium so much as it is the result of recording and processing of sound, on whatever carrier, done by its producers, some of whom are so insensitive to what they are producing as to border on the criminal. I am after beautiful, communicative music, well recorded and produced.
So, vinyl is waning? More used vinyl for me to choose from. Bring it on.
I continue to buy LP's as well, but only if they're reissues where I can't find a good original copy or something missing from my collection that is from before digital recording.
For example, I just bought the Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers reissue LP - I know I used to have it but for some reason that was missing.
For new music, I'm perfectly fine with a CD. The only exception is with groups where I have everything on vinyl, and want to have the latest on LP as well.
Mind you, that isn't with very may bands. Maybe Neil Young, Fleet Foxes, Arcade Fire, that sort of thing.
I never thought there was a "Vinyl Resurgence" because there wasn't. Annual LP sales for any label are less than 1% of their overall volume. Selling a few hundred thousand copies when it used to be in the hundreds of millions is hardly a resurgence.
And yes, I also look forward to LP's coming down to a reasonable price.
"And yes, I also look forward to LP's coming down to a reasonable price."
An LP that cost $3.98 in 1965 would have cost $30.78 in 2016. How far down does the price have to go to be considered "reasonable?"
I listen to a lot of opera. Complete boxed opera sets on LP, with libretti are typically $4-6 used, and many of them appear to have been played only once or twice. They sound great and cost very little. Makes me smile!
It appears to me that StephenJK was referring to new vinyl-or at least to reissues that are newly on the market.
I just like music. EVERY kind of music* and each of my current different music-players sound good, each in its distinctive, slightly different way.Bears just like to resist CHANGE in all its guises! I therefore hated CD's when they first came out but -hey- I voted with my dollars, having bought a few thousand through the years. As CD players have gotten much better, my ears acclimated to their sonic signature, and they became the Only-Game-in-Town for new music, I had to say that they sounded damn good.
Nowadays, listening to WFMT on streaming internet "radio" I lament the lack of sparkle, no soundstage, tubby bass etc etc. but the same adjustment process is likely going on as far as all sorts of streaming/downloadable music: gradual ear-adjustment accompanied by increments technological improvements.
Let's plan to be hauling off wheelbarrows of CD's from Goodwill very soon, as the CD reaches the end of its big wave. I was lucky enough to haul off CARLOADS of LP's when they reached the end of their big wave in about 1985 or thereabouts. Right on- ride the wave!
* Full disclosure: Riverdance-able music, Indonesian Gamelan and Chinese opera excluded.
Edits: 07/23/17
Can't say I've noticed this trend, but then I'm not focused on what other people are doing. And as Merlot-cat notes, Sony is just about to get pressing again. Seems more like clickbait.
Big J
"... only a very few individuals understand as yet that personal salvation is a contradiction in terms."
...and start hawking some combination of downloadable/streaming music with matching players- all a slick system in a colorful box that 10MM folks go out and buy at Walmart, right over there next to the pickles... Then we catch the wave as Mr. and Mrs. America dump all those stupid dirty old CD's.
there is a story on Sony starting to press vinyl again, 28 years after stopping. I guess Sony didn't get the message yet.
The whole problem with the world is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.
-Bertrand Russell
Sony at least have ears and a measure of integrity. I see it in the design of their equipment and perhaps in their overall strategy. I don't care of they're slow responding to market influences, really. I'm 10x as slow... What matters is that Sony seem like they actually listen to music and give a damn about it. Outside of the high-end audio world there's few companies that can say that meaningfully. They have convinced me anyway.
They are planning for the streaming/downloadable future but I will rely on them to approach it carefully, striking a balance of cost/ complexity/ sound-quality that is somehow livable. I guess I'm a Sony fan-bear.
I don't know if you love classical music but read the article below. It's interesting and applies to all forms of recorded music I reckon.
The upshot is "Virtually the entire recorded history of classical music will vanish from the [shelves]. None of the pre-2000 material had digital rights cleared when it was recorded and the cost of clearing these rights now dwarfs any income that could result. There is no commercially viable model for reviving this material. ...The remaining 3 "major" labels - Universal, Sony and EMI - will be out of the classical business* within 2 years. They will create no more than a handful of additional classical CD's." [* author is referring to durable media, like CD's, in this instance]
Hang on to your CD's and hope that someone like Sony (someone with ears, that have industry-wide clout) comes up with a REALLY GOOD idea by around 2020. I went to the LA Audio Show this year and didn't catch any glimpses of a brilliant golden audio future.
Late to the game, as usual.
Seems to happen every year.
Watch ...the boom will bust again next year.
Dean.
reelsmith's axiom: Its going to be used equipment when I sell it, so it may as well be used equipment when I buy it.
I think that certain records will always have value, and will always go up in price.
Early Blue Note, original Beatles, original records by any famous band pretty much anything that captures an important cultural moment and is original and authentic and is produced in limited quantities goes up in value.
A lot of people I know are getting into vinyl now, most of them are much younger than me, and they proclaim that analogue is better. I have to hold my tongue in these conversations, because I don't necessarily think that analogue sounds better, and I never liked the glitches and other errors that vinyl produces by nature of the fact that it is an imperfect medium.
Is this a fad or a fashion, maybe so. Maybe it is a desire to plug the vacuum created by the 'everything now' culture of millennials, or a craving for something that is real, has meaning, and has substance in a world where the only value of things is the dollar value the market puts on them. Maybe the millennials are missing the heritage, the importance of respecting traditions and valuing things that are old; values that our parents gave us, and that we took for granted which are almost completely absent in the way kids are rared today. Who knows?
But the trend among millennials to seek out vinyl is a different driver for prices than what I described above. Rare records, will always be rare and will always be valuable. The laws of supply and demand ensure that.
Best regards
I haven't read the article-didn't want to subscribe-and I don't know therefore if it addresses the subject, but I've never been clear on whether or not any of the reported vinyl sales figures include used vinyl. I've always thought not, because trying to get meaningful information would seem to be nearly impossible. Instinctively I would think that this is a far larger market than new, but who knows?
...until the Bear finishes thinning his herd and selling off his "excess" LP's at today's suuuper-premium prices! The irony of it is that many of the thinned LP's are ones I bought for 3/1$ at the end of the Golden Age. Quite a return on investment - who'd-a-thunk it!
I am amazed at what some people are paying for LPs these days. That said there in no shortage of records in my area, between shows and record stores and people willing to dump there whole collections it is all good. And with what I have learned about set up this obsession with music will outlast me.
Kindablue
over on AK...
Someone said "CDs are Dead" (tongue in cheek) but I got triggered.
Someone is always announcing the death of one or another format. It's never true. Nothing is dead. I can still get wax cylinder blanks for crying out loud.
Dead or "over' is when there is no media and no player available to hear the media.
Heck, I think even wire recorders are alive using that criteria. I'm not worried about the LP.
Laser disc on the other hand... :)
The media starts running stories about how Vinyl is here to stay.
That's cause of concern.
Power is always dangerous. It attracts the worst and corrupts the best ... Ragnar Lothbrok
needs something to fuss over?
Could THIS be fake news?
It's not a boom, it's a cycle.
Vinyl never went away, the masses (as such) just rediscovered it.
So it returns to being less mainstream.
BFD I say.
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
Those who don't like it cannot understand why anyone likes it.
There should be a law against using Jazz and Britney Spears in the same sentence. I will let you guess what side of the fence I fall on.
Enjoy the ride
Tom
I fully realize that was a reach. Can I just pay a fine, or do I have to go to jail? If the latter, can I pardon myself? Is so, pardon me.
I guess the penalty for me would be having to listen to the same Britney CD (not an LP) over and over again for a week while subsisting on a diet of haggis and olives.
I won't use any names (to protect the guilty) but I know an author of several well received jazz books who has also worked as Britney's tour manager!
I love jazz! Except for how it sounds...
and I hold with the great humorist.
Only he said, "Wagner is not as bad as it sounds." Or words to that effect.
Anyway, I am fine that you dislike jazz; that leaves more jazz LPs for me to buy.
Sounds like the horizon of a buying opportunity !
but haggis?
THAT'S extreme!
And I did NOT use butt.
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
I was here before and now during. I'll be here after the masses leave.
In the past year por so I put together turntables, actually complete systems, with stuff codged from Craigslist for 4 of the nice young people at my shop PLUS my daughter. (They paid for the stuff, no markup, I did it for the fun of it!)
These are young, super-bright hipster-artist-types in their mid-thirties or thereabouts. Very tech-savvy but totally non-audiophiles!! They all thought vinyl was somehow cool, but have no real record collections nor perhaps any interest beyond showing a turntable off for their friends. With one real exception, I'm guessing their turntables are sitting under piles of moldering junk-mail and copies of "Wired" magazine.
The time to SELL records in now- if you're in a selling mode. I have been thinning the herd steadily and it's a seller's market right now, probably because of these very hipsters. I assume the WSJ says that this little bump was just a bubble and it's popping...
Especially Bowie since he passed away. I've sold a few.
"When we look into the deepest space with our most powerful telescopes, we see only the past"
Where are you selling your records?
Dave
to get past the first paragraph.
Jack
that might work, it works with NYT.
dee
;-D
True terror is to wake up one morning and discover that your high school class is running the country.
quote by Kurt Vonnegut
nt
"Decaf is for cowards."
Jack Kevorkian
....and I've no plans on subscribing to the WSJ no matter how good that publication might be.
-Steve
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