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In Reply to: RE: LP Gear "Black Oil?" posted by Wilson on June 21, 2017 at 17:26:18
Any authorised Linn dealer stocks the proper oil.
I get mine from my dealer:
Accent on Music:
914-242-0747
music@accenthifi.com
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Got parts for my Linn Axis here. Nice guys!
MD MUSIC SYSTEMS
10406B Baltimore National Pike
Ellicott City, MD. 21042-2171
Phone: (410) 480-9763
My slight contribution is not about linn oil and is off topic unless you want to open the discussion to oils in general.I don't know if my table passes for " exquisite" , since I didn't have to take out a second mortgage to buy the thing. It's a Michell GYro se, a demo from a supporting vender, the needle doctor. A fine transaction for me, and trouble free , right down to the shipping.
Now that I have made fun of using "exquisite" , to describe product, I'll get to my point.The michell uses a platter bearing that pumps oil as it rotates, and they include a little bottle of dedicated michell branded oil for assembly, which is also available separately.
It might be the history of the company that makes it so consumer friendly, it started as a hobby, and grew into diy kits sold from the back of his garage, before the design was finalized. (All those different ears and listening spaces over time working on tweaks paid off in sound, according to me. )
Anyway, not being snobs, they offer that the dedicated oil can be replaced by high quality synthetic oil. Which makes sense, long chain oil molecules are required for most advanced lubrication today, and a turntable should use sota oil. . ( natural oil has a mixture of sizes and broken chains among the long stable molecular chains, which can cause molecular gaps in the lubricating oil structure, and resultant lubrication failures, on a molecular level first, than grows to complete failure, as more chains break.
Anyway I called the mobil 1 oil advice line and asked if zero thirty viscosity would be a better turntable oil than the 5-30 weight I was using. No advantage, was the report. the answer was delayed because they had to call the lab , for the unusual question.
With my next required platter bearing oil change, I will switch to high mileage 5-30 mobil 1. Oils have a combination of additive packages, and modern cars are designed to lubricate with oils that promote catalytic converter health. Older, high mileage , oil packages have more anti shear additives, rougher on converters, that are not in the new regular oil formulations. .
I really don't think it makes much difference, at 33 1/3 rpm , the stuff that lubricates supersonic engines in combat should be able to handle it.
If I owned a linn I would probably use the "black oil" on the very slight chance that they listened to a selection of oils . I would also have a deep hunger to find the construction of black oil.
I know none of these guys operate an oil refinery.
Edits: 06/22/17
My pore old Thorens which I bought new in '72.. has been subjected to * lotsa * oil types.
Dependant on the Flavour of the decade being Shilled :-)
From Sewing machine to Full synths of varying viscosities to Phils' Tenacious oil (hypoid sans the smell).
NONE made any audible differences of note.
(A better cleaning job on the Lp prior to playing it was far more productive)
But Hey! Oil fooling amused me, and likely many others.Just MY 2 cents.
Edits: 06/22/17
Thanks for the info, without a listening test, I would still be guessing that the type of oil couldn't possibly make an audible difference.Seeing the sewing machine oil as platter lube is a pretty far our suggestion, I agree. It triggered a memory. When I was a kid, we always had three in one oil, which was sold as a household and sewing lubricant, my mom used it on her sewing machine.
As a kid, I sometimes wondered why the spout would get gummy . Now I know it was because it was a vegetable based oil, packed in the same distinctive shaped dispenser car as singer sewing machine oil , which was petrol based, and which could only be purchased at the sewing machine place. Three in one oil you could buy at the family market, and it became a popular product, by mimicking a better product that most people needed at the time. Kind of like Budweiser beer.
Three -N- One has since changed formulations. Budweiser has started flag waiving on beer labels as the answer to a more sophisticated consumer. Whatever works.
Dang hard to post without talking about my turntable bearing. I love the design. With modern oils, the thing should last forever at 33 1/3 rpm's.
Edits: 06/23/17
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