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In Reply to: RE: Visit Analog Planet to view video's of VPI visit (nt) posted by audio39 on November 01, 2013 at 11:07:01
You should look at the video Fremer shot, which is up on his Analogplanet site. Just one factoid should convince even the most hard-core hater out there that you've been wrong about HW: the motor upgrade included in the current version of the Traveler. On what is VPI's lowest-cost TT, he's incorporated a simplified SDS (essentially a 60hz generator) in the motor to ensure accurate speed. Need more convincing? How about the Traveler's arm upgrade, also discussed in Fremer's video?
No, VPI isn't perfect (I don't know of a manufacturer that is). But I don't know of a firm that caters to our interest in vinyl that is as responsive to its customers, as consistently innovative, and as committed to "made in the USA" as VPI.
Follow Ups:
I have never understood why people don't provide links when they want you to look at something.
With respect to speed accuracy, Fremer claimed his Continuum had accurate speed yet the Traveler ran one-half percent faster in recent needle drops posted by Fremer on the Analog Planet. Furthermore, Texanater claimed his Traveler runs one-half percent faster than his Technics SL-1200, which is quartz locked. I timed my Technics SL-1200 and found it to be accurate to within 0.0008%.
Give me a link and I'll look at the video.
Best regards,
John Elison
Regarding the Traveler fast paced operation.....Harry now has installed an addition which is a less expensive, but effective SDS-likecircuit. It can't be adjusted, but is now very accurate.
I can't speak to Texanator's test, but I do know that Fremer tested the original edition of the Traveler. Seems to me that HW took the speed criticism to heart and made the necessary modification (the 60 hz generator). What more are we supposed to ask of a manufacturer? I'd contrast VPI's behavior with that of Rega, which steadfastly denies reality by marketing TTs that invariably run quite audibly fast. Even Rega's latest and greatest, according to Fremer, is fast.
I don't think a 60-Hz generator is going to correct the speed problem. Unless you live somewhere other than the United States, we already have 60-Hz line frequency that is very accurate and very stable. Unless VPI addresses some other aspect such as pulley diameter or belt elasticity, the motor will run at the same speed with a 60-Hz SDS as it runs on the line frequency.
Regardless of what people generally believe, our line frequency is maintained to very high accuracy. According to the link below, line frequency will fluctuate no more than about ±0.08% and that's a worst-case situation. It's frequency error is usually no more than ±0.04%.
Best regards,
John Elison
NT
-Wendell
Hi Wendell,
I watched the videos and I learned a lot. I learned that your Traveler has the same 23-dollar motor that they use in many of their more expensive turntables costing as much as 6500-dollars. Of course, the new Traveler has a special SDS circuit whereas their 6500-dollar turntable does not.
Best regards,
John Elison
It is apparent that you are dealing with high levels of first order cognitive distortion and a cacophonic waveform destroying any harmonic fidelity from your audio output whenever there is a VPI signal entering your inputs. Might I suggest that you consider having your cantilever realigned and then having your stylus cleaned and lubricated. If that doesn’t fix the problem maybe your stylus is just worn out and you need to rebalance your rig. I'm pretty sure that if you just lowered your tracking force, your records would not wear out so quickly.
I watched the same video.
I understood his comment to mean that *some* $6500 turntable out there uses the very same motor as his much lower priced Traveler does.
John, you really blew it this time!!
The Traveler has a different motor setup than the Classic, Scout, Aries, HR-X, DD, do I continue!
I think you watched the video with a veil of red across your eyes due to the fact that at some point in your life I ran over your dog!!
The Classic 3 in rosewood ($6500) uses a 300 RPM motor twice the size and power of the Traveler mounted in a 25 pound machined aluminum top that cost more than the Traveler to make!!!!!!!!!!!!
What is it John, will you only be happy when VPI goes under, closes its doors for good, and roughly 30 families loose there incomes!!
My last post, F*** you all.
Not all of us are white sock with sandals techie geeks who have difficulty understanding the language and worship specifications. :)
Harry, I hope not. You add much to this forum.
-Wendell
Opus 104
NT
-Wendell
nt
So did I.
Cheers,
Al
Nice try Harry! I already watched the video, though -- twice. I was only repeating words that came out of your mouth. The video was posted by Michael Fremer -- not by me. Perhaps you should use a script next time.
Good luck,
John Elison
And reading something unsaid into his words.
At the expense of confusing the issue with facts, "there are" other brands of gear "here" in the plant to which he referenced using the $23 motor.
I wish he had miked Harry but still found them informative and entertaining.Seeing all the changes, improvements, in the Traveler made we want to spit on my original model....not really. :-)
-Wendell
Edits: 11/01/13
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