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Has anyone checked the accuracy of the Shure vs a digital one?
What was the outcome? Thanks
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They are very close from my findings.
My analog gauge read 2.0 grams... and the digital read 2.089
20bux vs 100bux. whayagonnado?!!
Digital scales should be available for a good deal less that $100, I'd think.
But mine came with my TT, so I haven't actually looked around to price them.
I do like getting reading to 1/100th of a gram.
and therefore sounds better than any digital scale on the market regardless of price.
In all seriousness, I have no trouble with the Shure gauge and no desire to try a digital one. The Shure is accurate to 1/10th of a gram from .5 to 1.5 grams and 2/10ths of a gram from 1.5 to 3.0 grams. If you can't live with that range of accuracy, then you need a digital scale.
Personally, I have never been able to hear a difference in a cart by making .1 gram adjustments anyway. I'm sure many will chime in to say that they can hear significant differences when adjusting VTF only .0005 gram, but I bet none of them could do it a statistically meaningful percentage of the time under double blind conditions.
the shure is adequate but fussy to use. the $20 digital pocket scales for about $20 (mine is an ohaus) are much easier to use and i feel more confidence in them. i see no need to pay some inflated price because one has an audiophile brand name on it.
i find the shure to be floppy and unwieldy to use. yes, i have one and have had for decades but the little digital one is far superior ergonomically and in accuracy more confidence inspiring.
...regards...tr
All the drug dealers I used to know gave up the triple beams in favor of digital scales a loooong time ago.
From my "simpleton" point of view, I've just never like the idea of setting my stylus on a teeter-totter. Like many here I'm from the stone-age when that was pretty much all that was available but digital scales are where it's at now.
I have a digital that works for a few days when I insert fresh batteries and has readings to a tenth that change from moment-to-moment depending on the position of the stylus and the tides.
My Shure gauge sets in an instant, requires no batteries and has an unambiguous reading (with a little interpolation) in that little mirror.
Now, just like with visual Azimuth and VTA, after the beam balances, I listen and adjust the couterweight for the best sound. Measurements are only half the job. The AT-1005s sliding arm counterweight makes that a breeze:
Someone I know has one that looks very similar, lucky guy!
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Music. Window or mirror?
Is that one of them there fancy words for "troglodite"??!!
it was a JOKE!
So that proves that the venerable Shure Stylus Gauge is superior to a very bad digital stylus gauge. However, IMO and IME it is inferior to a good digital stylus gauge. I've got at least 3 of the Shure gauges, accumulated over decades, and I would never think of using one again, now I've got a good digital gauge. It's time saving in every way, and it's easier on one's nerves because there is no seesaw to damage your cantilever. Not to mention the accuracy issue.
I beg to differ. They certainly are more accurate but a good scale is easily accurate enough. Finishing involves setting VTA and most users that super fine tune the tracking force are usually really tuning the VTA, unlees VTA is reset every time tracking force is changed. More force pushes the stylus closer to the pickup body altering VTA and vice versa.
And, I think a person should use the type of scale he likes best.
To each his own!
Best regards,
John Elison
I absolutely agree with you that you should use what you like and what is easiest to use. My only point was that it doesn't matter performance wise.
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