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I was just wondering what some of you here consider the best sounding
speakers that would take up the least amount of room(space)without the use of a subwoofer?The speakers do not have to be vintage as I would be willing to try some new modern speakers as well!The size of the area I plan to use the speakers in is roughly 14,feet long by 12 feet wide and has a carpeted floor.I will be using either my Marantz SR 225 reciever which is 25 watts per channel or my superscope amp which is 7 IHF watts per channel!These are photos from the internet of the stereo units I plan to use!I am building this for in my daughters room with a CD player,turntable etc as she no longer wanted The Panasonic all in one stereo because you could not hook up a CD player!Brian
If you can find a pair of Fried (pronounced Freed) B2's (6.5" 2 way), they are more like music than most. Irving 'Bud' Fried was an exasperating curmudgeon who built great sounding speakers. Monitor audio had some really small speakers(Model 7 and I think 9) which were great bang for the buck
The 'legendary" BA A40s are a real bargain speaker with accurate sound, good dispersion, freq response 65-20,000 Hz, near flat response and no coloration. The A40s are stacked with a pair of vintage KLH Sixes to top out the high freq. Plus honorable mention: Cambridge SoundWorks Model Seventeen. Boston Sound. Nuff said.
Dyna A 25 and a pair of ADS larger bookshelf speakers
I always wanted to hear a pair of A10's but they are fairly rare
oops forgot to take my meds...
The trouble with doing nothing, is that you can't tell when you are finished.
Your daughter needs taste re-education.
That is not the only music she listens too,she just listens to them the most!She likes the pop and Rock music of the 70's and 80's!Modern Country,etc!I remember how my parents did not care for most of the music I listened to back when I was my daughters age!Brian
I can't point a finger. I listened to the Monkeys. Acutally, I still listen to them!
and I still play the song Sugar,Sugar by them! I also remember watching
there many TV shows over the years,as well as reading there comic books too!
I think you mean the Archies. The Monkeys did Daydream Believer, Last Train to Clarksville, I'm a Believer, etc. They had a TV show too.
Thanks everyone and keep the sugestions coming! I had forgotten about a pair of speakers I had picked up about a year ago for $4.99 a peice at our
local Thrift Store before they went crazy with there prices!I can not find a model # on these,but they did sound good on the Marantz SR 225 at first.Pictures of the speakers are from the internet.
Anyway we tested them out last night listening to Pink's 2nd album and they rocked pretty good,but They do seem to distort some when the volume gets turned up just near the half way mark on the Marantz.My feeling is the Marantz just does not have enough power to really make them sing,or something could be starting to go wrong with the Marantz that did not start showing up until now?The speakers work fine with no issues on my Fisher 450 T reciever which is 65 IHF Watts per channel according to my owners manual.Are these speakers power hungry?What is interesting is that
if you stay at about 4 on the volume control they rock the room and do not
peter out soundwise!So I told her for now to just keep the volume between 2 and 4 and everything should be fine!Brian
These things are very nice even without a sub.
I like the detail they give.
Lacking any significant bass, but within their range are exceptionally musical. Used with Shahinian Hawk bass units and their builtin passive XO, it's a very majestic and musical system.
Leaving aside the B&W DM5 which IMO was a more neutral mini than the LS3/5A, which I still loved anyway, there is one other contender, which almost no-one else here will have heard.
Because they were made here in Australia and were only ever well known in NSW and Victoria.
Audiosphere Model 2's, which used a single Coral Flat 5 wide-range off-white paper-cone driver, with an R and C inductance rise EQ network across the terminals, in spherical reflex enclosures.
Excellent diffraction behaviour, and virtually no enclosure sound. Even without valves they disappeared completely on real-stereo recordings. Transparent, very. With valves? Yum yum!
Those with the paper dustcap are supposed to have sounded better than the ones with the shiny metal dustcap. Either were flat on axis out to 18k and smoooooth.
No they wouldn't do loud rock and roll, 3mm Xmax is the reason, but they were quite sensitive and let you hear as much or more as QUAD ELS 57's properly tweaked and up on stands can. Poor man's quads.
I'm not at all sure they weren't a bit better on voices, and at letting you hear expression, and from about 150hz on up one of the best spkrs for the piano. Fastest dynamic drivers I have heard.
I've heard the same driver in rectangular enclosures of the same Vb and Fb porting, even a dead multilayer example with rounded edges, and it was just NOT the same speaker. Much less clear, less nuanced, less detailed, less nice / a bit wearing or tiring.
I have one pair here, and may soon have another pair.
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And gladly would he learn and gladly teach - Chaucer. ;-)!
'Still not saluting.'
I doubt there are many of them on this side of the pond! The Flat 5 is reputed to be a very good drive and that sounds like a serious cabent. Are they very avalable in Australia?
Okara I's -> one sweet, little kick ass Mini-Monitor
Naturally, it has electrostatic elements. :)
how much do they go for ralphie? i can see a nice sat/sub setup or a damm fine surround system with those in the rear and A1s in the front and maybe one of those in the center.
i havent gone full surround yet, only dynaquad, but i DO like being surrounded.
Cambridge SoundWorks Newton M50
simul justus et peccator
Rogers LS/35A - I heard them at Soundscape over 30 years ago and couldn't believe such a "big" sound could come from so small a speaker.
LS3/5A is an easy load for your 25 watt Marantz SR 225 reciever.
and they did rock and roll VERY nicely. wish i had 'em back.
Thats what I'm interested in,Big sound from such a small speaker!Brian
The big sound is due to a good sized hump in the response around 100 Hz. But the good sound comes at a price. The LS3/5a has very low sensitivity and needs an amp with some power and good dynamic headroom.
Klipsch kg 0.5s.
Great imaging and lots of detail.
From the Industrial Hub of the Mid-Mon Valley!
Amazing amount of detail and sound from such small speakers. I picked these up used and have been extremely pleased. USing them in a bedroom system where they are great.
I hve a pair of these in a biamped set up with an active crossover at 80 Hz to stereo subs.
I first heard these at a shop in Royal Oak, MI. We also heard the PSB Synchrony One, driven by the same NAD amp and CD player; and to our great surprise, both of us prefered the B15. Very smooth, non-bright highs, very natural sounding instruments and vocals. No false bass bump, but still a quite respectable low end.
Sensitivity is rated at 90 dB and they are rated to handle 60 watt amps.
Is it the BEST small speaker I ever heard? Not sure. I liked the LS3/5a a lot, and the Paradigm Reference Active Studio 20 with internal amps was way up there, too. I also liked the M&K mini-monitors and have been impressed by the smaller Snells. But I think I'd put the B15 in their league. The newer PSB B1 is also very good.
Look for a pair of Paradigm Atoms V.2 used out there. Not a ton of bass, but a lot of detail for a cheap speaker..
of their Monitor 20, and was designed as a replacement for the BBC LS3/5a. IIRC, according to the Harbeth website the BBC actually is using Monitor 20s as well as Monitor 30s and 40s as monitors in their studios.
"The Sound of One Hand Clapping is Crashing by Design" HKM
Since small is a comparative term I guess using my Symphonys as the comparative, my Bozak 302s are the best sounding small speaker I've heard. Oh, smaller; then it would probably be a tossup between a set of modded JansZen Z410 and the only mini-monitor I enjoy, the A/D/S L-300s.
I purchased one of these setups used back in the 90s and absolutely loved the S1B satellites that came with it. It also had a single subwoofer with a plate amp that was not bad.
The imaging these things threw, though, are still remarkable in my memory even though they ended up staying with the ex-wife.
By small I assume you mean 'Bookshelf'?
Other small speakers that I really like the sound of are:
1.) Sonus Faber Signums
2.) Silver Line SR-17's
3.) GR Research Paradox 1's
I was moving and sadly sold them.. I had done a nice job on the oak cabs.. The new owner was tickled pink with them....
The trouble with doing nothing, is that you can't tell when you are finished.
"Trying to make it real ... compared to what?" - Les McCann & Eddie Harris, "Swiss Movement"
For that receiver, Auratones or my current Cambridge S30s.
For the Superscope, with 7 watts, efficency is far more important than acuracy for the most livable sound. here is the list:
Fostex diriver in a DIY cabent
Small version of the Zeneth Allegro
Small Scott speakers
Utah 8" full range
Kenwood (trio), Mistiubishi, Panasonic, etc. 8" alnico, 1 or 2 way speakers designed for small systems. There are loads of these about and some are very good sounding. If they are 2 way, they will have a cone tweeter and a single cap crossover.
For the Marantz, I would recommend:
Radio Shack Minimus 7
ADS L-300 and L-400
I was thinking of trying the Allegro 1000's or 2000's on both systems and using which ever of the 2 sounded the best.I have tried my XP 55 B's
on both and it just did not sound right to me or my daughters ears on
Hannah Montana,Pink,etc you get the ideal!She 12 and mostly likes alot of
that new pop music designed for the younger set!while rock'in out with her mother listening to 80's pop & rock as well.She does want a turntable,besides a CD player so that is a good thing,to me!Anyway I was thinking if they were not so dam big(All though the Allegro's are really not that small themselves.),I would have tried using my Realistic SOLO 3 A's!Have you ever heard a pair of those?Thanks for the advice as well.Brian
I have not head the SOLO 3 A's but they look like the right direction. You should give them a try. Whatever you pick, give her the option of painting and/or decorating them.
pioneer pim-5's in the factory box. use the superscope, as they only handle 3 watts. good luck finding some, though.
Do they look anything like these?More then I want to spend for vintage speakers but they do look nice!
There is a picture of some PIMs in this post. The backside of the 6L is shown. The front is very similar to the PIM 8L shown, only smaller. The design is similar to the Altec Bicones where the center portion of the cone can move independently from the outer portion of the cone.
I have a pair of the 6Ls and plan to build cabinets for them someday.
Baby Advents are highly recommended , can be found relatively cheap and have good bass and nice overall tone .
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