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Ultimate Audio gave Optrix cleaning solution a rave review. So I bought one bottle and tried it myself and it is not working out for me. Any one has tried it with good results as claimed by the folks from U.A.
I tried it. Found that Auric Illuminator is much better.See this Link:
http://www.AudioAsylum.com/audio/tweaks/messages/8230.html
I used Optrix for about 2 years along with the AudioPrism green pens. I went through about four bottles and was impressed with its benefits. I recently switched to the Auric product and like it much better.With Optix, discs would sometimes require multiple treatments. Some disks developed streaks or a mottled appearance. The green pen coatingstook forever to dry.
The sound coming from my discs when treated with Auric is consistently improved to a greater degree than the other treatments mentioned. The improvement is also obvious when playing CDs on my car deck.
I will use my remaining Optrix to clean my glasses.
Just received the Auric Illuminator this weekend and tried it on some of my cd's. It definitely makes a difference. Major improvement is in the low level information which the cd player can retrive. On sound stage and treble/midrange clarity I did not hear much improvement, but its there.
I applied only on the playback side, and that where it makes a difference.Chhatric
Chhatric, I experience an additional improvement when applying Auric Illuminator to both sides per the instructions. Did you try it both ways?
Chhatric, I experience an additional when applying Auric Illuminator to both sides per the instructions. Did you try it both ways?
Mmmmmm....could you fill us in a little more Todd. What equipment did you use, specifically the digital front end, for your comparisons?Others have reported on AA varying results with the Audience product, even varying from disc-to-disc or type of music.
Myles B. Astor
Publisher
Ultimate Audio
Astor, Has your staff tried Auric Illuminator?
Sure Miles,
I have a California Audio Labs CL-20. (My gear is listed in the Inmates systems).As I said before, I found positive results with EVERY disk when using the Auric Illuminator and Aurex mat.
The Optrix worked, but only occasionally, on some disks.
You can see the link in my last message or go to "Enjoy the Music.com Review Magazine" Letters section to see my "Comparison" of the 2 products. http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazine/
i can second what todd said about the auric illuminator. i have used it on 20 or so discs and have notice a marked improvement in every one of the discs. i have a scd-1 player. it improves the super audio as well as the regular cd sound.
Ultimate Audio gave Optrix cleaning solution a rave review. So I bought one bottle and tried it myself and it is not working out for me. Any one has tried it with good results as claimed by the folks from U.A.Hi Tom,
Sorry to hear that you're disappointed with the Optrix results. In my system, the results were startling, esp. with regards to transparency, soundstaging, spaciousness and cleaning up the bottom end.(cj Prem. 12/ART/Altis or Metronome digital/Martin Logan reQuests or Vienna Acoustics Mahlers). I did pass out five or six bottles among the staff and everyone was pleased with the results (BTW, I didn't tell them my results beforehand--we only compared notes after).
I assume you followed the directions - and applied the solution twice, but didn't polish the disc? Also, I wasn't as impressed with treating both sides of the CD as suggested by the developer. I only cleaned the bottom of the CD.
Did you try the Optrix on more than one disc?
Finally, I guess there's always the chance that there might be a transport/CD player where it doesn't work. But our staff has a pretty good cross section of units (Altis, Dodson/Meitner, SCD-1, SimAudio Moon, Krell and a few others).
Please keep me updated with your results.
Myles B. Astor
Publisher
Ultimate Audio
Thanks for your advice, Myles. By following your direction and I should have read the developer's instruction too. After spraying the bottom cd with one or two sprays, I just wiped it toilet paper (new, of course!) and the results seem more than just subtle with more immediacy and soundstage depth. I also used the disc solution that I bought from Bob of the nuts, this seems to work just as well although I have not a/b the two. My cdplayer is Sony SCD1, BTW.
Tom
Thanks for your advice, Myles. By following your direction and I should have read the developer's instruction too. After spraying the bottom cd with one or two sprays, I just wiped it toilet paper (new, of course!) and the results seem more than just subtle with more immediacy and soundstage depth. I also used the disc solution that I bought from Bob of the nuts, this seems to work just as well although I have not a/b the two.Glad to be of help. Bob was supposed to send me some of their fluid but I've never gotten it. There also a couple of other fluids out there: the CD Mist from Jennifer Crock, a fluid from Gary Garfield who did Needle Nectar and supposedly one from the Disc Doctor, though I've not seen any yet.
My cdplayer is Sony SCD1, BTW.The differences should be really evident with the SCD-1 ---esp. at the frequency extremes. BTW, just got the Hyperion SACD disc--but have only heard the normal layer to date. Heard the SACD in an unfamiliar system and it sounded pretty nice. Of course it's a Tony Faulkner recording---and what would you expect ;-)
Myles B. Astor
Publisher
Ulimate Audio
I applied Optrix on some of my LD and DVD collections and not only did it improved the sound but the picture as well. Overall pictures look somewhat shaper than before the cleaning. Try this and see and hear it for yourself.
How often do you need to reapply the Optrix. Is the result as significant as the benedi cd clarifier. By the way, my Benidi died after one year of light use. Any fix for that?Kent
How often do you need to reapply the Optrix.Once.
Is the result as significant as the benedi cd clarifier?Interesting question. I have the "newest" version of the Bedini laying around -- but haven't done that comparison. One of the reasons is that I only need to apply Optrix once; the CD needs to be demagged every time you play it and I get increasingly lazy as I get older ;-)
By the way, my Benidi died after one year of light use. Any fix for that?I'd call the folks at Bedini regarding that questions. I've had my older unit for years with no problem.
Myles B. Astor
Publisher
Ultimate Audio
I've been using Optrix for years. It works nicely in my system. Transparency and speed are the key benefits.
I have been using Optrix cleaner for years. It works well for healing skips and cleaning CDs that have been in the truck too long. Sonic improvements are not profound but are present.Fred Griffith
Save your money. Go to your local eyewear shop and purchase some AR-66 (generic name) -or any other cleaning solution that they have for cleaning coated eyeglasses. You will notice that the bottle is identical. Still think that there is some magical property that justifies the 4 to 6x price differential? It is worth remembering that coated and plastic lenses are as vulnerable to damage as polycarbonate, since eyeglasses need to be cleaned on a frequent basis.One other question that you should ask yourself is whether there is any advantage associated with more than an occasional cleaning of a disc.
Unless a disc has become visibly dirty, you should probably just leave it be. Repeated cleaning is a sure-fire way to damage the surface, and sooner rather than later.
Ashley, An optical disc treatment system like Auric Illuminator is much more than a cleaner. Among other things it is also designed to remove and prevent static build-up. The Auric Illuminator kit also provides a large supply of specially designed application cloths that contain no cotton fibers so that you will never harm a disc using them. The kit also provides a superior marking pen for the control of reflection. Cleaning is only a side benefit of this product. You get what you pay for.
I'm almost afraid to ask what this all costs...A non-cotton woven fibre media to wipe the discs down with? According to Myles, the substance is supposed to be sprayed on and not wiped off at all. Somebody else used toilet paper...
Is the special pen the same thing as a Sharpie? I hear that the blue ink works the best, except for Frank Black cd's, in which case the black one gives the best results, except for some of the early Pixies cd's, which provide optimal inner track resolution when you use a green pen.
I got in to a fight the other day with my Audio Mussolini friend, just after the Trotsky type left with his boyfriend after they found my system bass shy. We were listening to some 78's and a Wagner metal (a real mother -that one). Anyhow, the Mussolini type was pissed off because he wanted to keep the price of the custom whittled down hockey puck that I was using as an idler wheel on my 301 high -and it wasn't even an Italian part!!!
My local supplier for AR-66 is Hakim Optical Co. Just upstairs, in the same building (Corner of Vaughan and St. Clair, Gabor -you can walk there, ya poop) there is the Hakim Hearing Aid Co.
I guess Mr. Hakim is an audiophile from way back.
PS: ECT on the 7th floor, PET in the basement. No waiting. The ultimate audiophile elvaluation combo - special price for PET-ECT-PET. Check out the subjective differences B-4 and after treatment.
Dr. A.S. Struan (won't hurt a bit -in fact you won't remember a thing!)
Yes, a non-cotton fiber cloth! I was refering to Auric Illuminator. Myles was refering to a different product. If your looking for a bargain AS WELL as optimum playback quality read the Auric Illuminator consumer reviews here at AudioAsylum.
One other question that you should ask yourself is whether there is any advantage associated with more than an occasional cleaning of a disc.Have you ever tried Optrix? It's not a cleaning agent. You sqirt it on twice and just "dab" the CD to get the fluid to dry. You don't polish/rub the surface.
Unless a disc has become visibly dirty, you should probably just leave it be. Repeated cleaning is a sure-fire way to damage the surface, and sooner rather than later.Again, you don't polish with Optrix and you only apply it once.
Myles B. Astor
Publisher
Ultimate Audio
Ashley, you've got me interested in the AR-66. Have you conducted an A-B listening test between it and Optrix? I've tested other cleaners and Optrix has always come out on top. Maybe I'll pick some up this weekend and have a shootout. (Spending my weekend comparing CD cleaners: being an audiophile sounds pretty pathetic sometime, doesn't it?)
Well Bruce you have company, I spent this morning cleaning my CDs with the SunglassHut AntiReflective lens cleaner. I think it does a pretty good job. With the badly recorded Indian Film song CDs I was able to discern more details - actually noise and other non-music stuff :( . Seriosly, it did improve the bottom end and string details.
I also have tried steaming the CDs with steam from a tea kettle. Again there is some improvement. If people want to use any fluids they should do this after steaming. BTW, the glass/lens wipe cloth from SunglassHut is very good. It is similar to the cloth which I use on my camera lenses. Should be good enough for CDs and it can also washed in your washing machine/dryer.
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