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In Reply to: RE: synergistic orange fuse posted by Ric on August 06, 2020 at 06:58:56
What I'm arguing is that if you think fuses make a difference to the sound of a piece of audio gear then you need to hear that piece without a fuse.
Then and only then will you know what you are looking for.
Unless you want a fuse that changes the sound of the unit to your liking. At that point all bets are off and the whole thing becomes completely subjective.
But it you want to know what your amp (or whatever piece of audio gear) sounds like without any possible harmful effects of a fuse then do as I have instructed and then go find a fuse that makes the piece of gear sound like that.
To me what I am saying makes perfect sense and is perfectly logical and I can't understand how or why anyone would argue with it.
If you want to know what a fried egg tastes like without salt, you cook and eat one without putting salt on it. On the other hand it you just want to taste the differences between different types of salt then keep doing what you're doing. Trying different fuses until you find the one that makes your amp sound (tastes) the way you like. But please understand that that is two different things.
Tre'
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I think we can agree to disagree. You are right about listening to a piece without a fuse. BUT--given that my amp is a tube amp, I'm not about to bypass the fuses at this point in time. Maybe with a crappier amplifier.
But even so, for the sake of argument, let's say I did that and heard a difference.
Then we get back to what I was asking for--a subjective comparison of sound quality based on no fuse vs. fuse, or no fuse vs. boutique fuses, etc.
If you have done that, can you comment on what you are hearing in terms of sound quality?
Ric,
I agree with you that the deciding factor for an audiophile is how the music sounds subjectively to their ears, not how it ought to sound on the basis of science/argument.
The problem is that how the music subjectively sounds to the same individual with the same equipment in the same place differs unaccountably over time due to variable factors. The quality of the incoming AC current, the humidity, the listener's level of stress, fatigue, and digestion, the time of day (absence of distraction at night-time) etcetera. So the level playing field on which we make our listening judgments is seldom level for long and we find ourselves having difficulty explaining the fluctuating impressions and not just between the first and second. We are comprised of chemicals with a nervous system shooting electrical messages at 200mph+ between brain and body so it's hardly surprising that we are hardly the most stable listening platform day-to-day.
People of calm disposition in good, stable health may be less impacted by internal human weather but are equally subject to constantly changing external factors.
Dry Ginger
Yeah, I think that's exactly why it is important for reviewers to listen to their equipment for weeks or preferably months--just listening to a few cuts and noting how different they sound A/B-ing it does not the the equipment justice.
Let the designers use measurements and let the reviewers/owners use their ears....
Doesn't do the reader justice either, Ric.
Reviewers are paid by the word, frequently rely on A-B listening sessions as you say, and then write up the review subject to a manufacturer's advertising influence and seductive special equipment offers. It takes an audiophile who can recognize a professional reviewer and is thoroughly familiar with their style to benefit from insightful inferences hidden behind the surface of the text, doesn't it. It's remarkable that media so burdened can survive.
Yeah, I suppose if you want to play the game, you have to prostitute yourself to some extent. I'm sure it's a PITAss to go through the hassle of getting the equipment, having a deadline,hooking it up, listening, evaluating, comparing, sending it back, and doing it all over again with more equipment.
Not my cuppa tea, and perhaps it pays the bills for some, but on the other hand, I have bought equipment based on good reviews, so I am appreciative there is SOME evaluation, biased or not!
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