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Wouldn't those foam pool noodle thingies work well? Seems like they would.
And they're cheap.
I know they're ugly and probably have no WAF, but I don't have a wife
and my equipment sits on a heavy/wide/massive bookcase and all cables
are hidden from view so I just drop these things behind the bookcase
and position cables accordingly.
Whether or not you can observe a thing depends upon the theory you use. It is the theory which decides what can be observed. - Albert Einstein
Follow Ups:
Your idea and Dave's idea are both very good ones. But I don't hear any difference in either of my two systems, with vs without cable lifters. The main system is fully balanced front to back, and the long leads from my preamplifier to my amplifiers run under a wool rug and over a hardwood floor, for cosmetic reasons. My other system is single-ended and the cables from preamp to amp run on top of a synthetic indoor/outdoor carpet which is laid over solid concrete (my basement). Two very different situations.
I think that this is the first time I've heard of anyone using them for interconnects.
Don't know if it's that I've not encountered too many folks using long interconnect runs from pre-to-amp.
It's speaker cables that seem to be what most folks use them for, - but wilth monoblocks sitting behind each speaker and super short speaker cables....??
Could it be that most interconnects (besides something like anti-cables, or Mapleshade), are already super insulated and don't carry a "field?"
"Asylums with doors open wide,
Where people had paid to see inside,
For entertainment they watch his body twist
Behind his eyes he says, 'I still exist.'"
Look 'em up. The red ones. Very cheap. No WAF if that matters.
I'm just wondering if my fairly thick power cords will fit ...
Whether or not you can observe a thing depends upon the theory you use. It is the theory which decides what can be observed. - Albert Einstein
And have a little flexibility to hold even larger rods/cables. Also they're designed to hold a second rod/cable at a 90-degree angle, which works perfectly in my setup.
Do the red ones sound better than the black ones?
"Writing about music is like dancing about architecture." ― Thelonious Sphere Monk
Cpwill
I wanted the red ones, which come in two heights, not for their sound quality, if any. But they keep me from tripping over the wires, which I had done frequently when the wires were simply lying on the carpeting.
I can spot these red suckers from a distance, which is a good thing given my age and occasional lack of "with-it-ness." Before I got them, and given that I have wires all over the place, I tended to pull speaker cables, ICs, and power cords out by the roots as I tripped over them. Not fun.
You have to buy them in quantity, but they're cheap enough that this hardly matters.
I have the same issue. In my basement system, the left channel amplifier and speaker are about 16 feet away from my preamplifier, which sits on top of a cabinet to the right of my listening position. So there is a cable running diagonally across the carpet from right to left, in between me and my access to the amplifiers, which need to be turned on separately at start-up. So of course I trip on the IC about one out of 3 times, which always elicits a few choice curse words. But I reckon that I would trip over the IC even more often, if it were elevated off the carpet surface on risers.
I thought the same thing, but found that the red cable chairs were so "look at me" colorful they're impossible to miss. At least for me, although with 18 of the things to avoid, I do graze a few now and then. But nothing like the old days.
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Have Fun and Enjoy the Music
"Still Working the Problem"
I had never heard the effect on a bare floor (I have always had rugs), but when demoing my amp at someones house we lifted his speaker cables off the bare floor and the soundstage was twice as big.
Do not believe anyone but only believe your own experience. You can temporarily lift your cables off the floor using pieces of cardboard placed on end.....3 inches is plenty to "hear" a difference....costs nothing to try.
I saw a youtube video of a guy who said they made a difference for him. so he measured the capacitance of his speaker cables. lifting of the floor lowered the capacitance by many magnitudes.
No info on what was on the floor or under it. So you mileage may vary but worth considering all the same.
Thanks for writing/saying that.....
In these times, and with the developments and changes to the sub-forums on this site, where "authority-figure" bullies have largely controlled the conversation(s) and shouted out both the variety of content, as well as reasoned and researched experiences: posts like yours add a refreshing reminder that no two rooms or systems are the same and are complex enough that experimentation is needed.
"Asylums with doors open wide,
Where people had paid to see inside,
For entertainment they watch his body twist
Behind his eyes he says, 'I still exist.'"
Would these work?
Tre'
Have Fun and Enjoy the Music
"Still Working the Problem"
Some acquired from a very high end source - Tractor Supply!
Looks like one needs adjustment. :)
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Have Fun and Enjoy the Music
"Still Working the Problem"
sure they would ... are those yours?
Climbed utility poles as a youth, or ... Archie McPhees catalogue maybe?
To err is human, to learn, divine
My grandparents built a small mobile home park back in the 1940's.
I have lived here at the park since 1978 and do all the maintenance and updates.
These insulators were being used on the electric system in the park.
Tre'
Have Fun and Enjoy the Music
"Still Working the Problem"
Edits: 05/18/20
thanks for your reply
you're an interesting fellow Tre`
be well,
To err is human, to learn, divine
I hear absolutely no difference with/without cable lifters.
A properly constructed cable should not require elevating. I only lifted my cables for ease of cleaning, nothing more. However, my cable investment is substantial. I heard no difference after removing them from the floor.
Some audiophiles pursue an imagined problem when there is no need of a solution. My advice is to use the money to buy better cables.
I use the Shunyata Research DF-SS which I like but I guess there is no harm in diy experimentation
These work well:
I agree, I've used them for years. They also interlock together & stack nicely although I don't think I would go more than 2 high or they might get tippy. I think they look great & have high WAF
But no IKEA near me. Last time I was in one, I thought I was in the
maze from hell.
Whether or not you can observe a thing depends upon the theory you use. It is the theory which decides what can be observed. - Albert Einstein
My wife and I won't go to Ikea anymore for that reason. I know that the maze is part of their concept because you buy stuff that you go by that you didn't know you needed, and probably don't anyway. Why I need to look at desks when I went in for a set of glasses is beyond me. Everybody at checkout has cartfuls of stuff, and a good 75% isn't what they went for. The concept though is getting old.
And to put this back to audio, the Kallax is still the best record shelf.
Buying them online is your friend.
If we accept that lifting the cable off the floor is the critical aspect of this tweak - then I would certainly give them a try-
They could be a great solution as being closed-cell foam they are mostly air-
I have a modest collection of Ceramic insulators (from power poles) that are effective for lifting - though I have not evaluated any sonic effects-
Happy Listening
thankewe
...regards...tr
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