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In Reply to: Re: So this is what this thread about? posted by machani on October 19, 2005 at 09:35:48:

"Lets make this more interesting: if you lose (meaning kenster is right), paint "I'm a BOOB" on your forehead, take a picture and post it on this forum. I think that would be more fair."
I'd expect that kind of language to come from my neighbor's 13 year old boy. What do you intend to accomplish by throwing insults? Do you sincerely believe that people who read this exchange will view you eagerness to insult people as a proof of the effectiveness of cryo treatment?
Also, are you up to your own challenge? If I win, would you paint your forehead and post the picture? If so, I am willing to take the challenge. If, on the other hand, all you can do is to hide behind anonymity and throw insults, then beat it.
Kurt

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I'm up for the challenge ... - machani 15:38:59 10/19/05 (3)
... but how will YOU prove to ME that you won? Can prove that you CAN'T hear the difference?
If you get the drift, you will realize are simply wasting everyone's time here. A better use of time, IMO, is to read up on science of deep cryogenic treatment. It has wide ranging applications, audio being only one of them.

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C N Machani
- Good. - KCHANG 17:42:42 10/19/05 (2)
  "... but how will YOU prove to ME that you won? Can prove that you CAN'T hear the difference?"
  Why don't you tell me what kind of proof you need besides trusting that I'll tell honestly whether I can hear a difference or not. If, however, you just declare that there is no way you want to accept my statement if I hear no difference (which may or may not be the case), even before I try it, then you are simply being evasive and are in no position to declare that you are up to the challenge.
  Also, just for the record, I don't view this "challenge" as one that will determine whether kenster will "lose" or I will "win." Kenster stated his view/experience. I did not say his view is wrong. I did ask him about the methodology he used to arrive at his conclusion. If I try the cryo-treated fuse and do not hear a difference, that result does not indicate that kenster does not truly believe that he can hear differences. In other words, even if I hear no difference, that does not mean kenster is a loser. I hope you understand that.
  "A better use of time, IMO, is to read up on science of deep cryogenic treatment. It has wide ranging applications, audio being only one of them."
  Great, now we are talking about science, which is something I do know. Your statement suggests that you have a pretty good knowledge of this "science of deep cryogenic treatment." Would you be so kind to educate me by pointing to articles, publications, etc. about this "science," especially any article explaining the mechanism through which cryogenic treatment can affect the sound? Also, could you please tell me about your scientific background?
  As I said from the beginning, I have not taken the position of rejecting the "benefits" of cryo treatment. Also, please remember, I did not even ask you for any scientific explanation before you used the S word. Now that you have opened the door, please do tell me about your scientific explanation.
  Kurt
  - Re: Good. - machani 01:44:11 10/20/05 (0)
    "Also, could you please tell me about your scientific background?"
    How about an Open Mind?
    (FWIW, I am an engineer with advanced degrees. But this is a moot point.)
    
    "please do tell me about your scientific explanation."
    See link.
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    C N Machani
    - Take it from here or google for more... (Open in New Window)
  - not good science - dave c 20:04:48 10/19/05 (0)
    Its not strictly neccessary to have a published abck up for any findings.
    The basis of "science" is observation and deduction.
    I still get the sense you think you are "playing" this thread and I have no idea why...
    Pehaps you could let us in on it...
    Together (since you have "opened the door) to your scientific background and what you have done to prove that cryo treatments have no effect.
    By the way, if you don't hear a change in your system, it doesn't mean he "believes" the change in his is true, it only means that you can't hear it in your system.
    A little more rigour here would be welcome.
    SInce you like this open door...
This reader of this exchange thinks machani did NOT insult you, at least in... - jeffreybehr 15:03:52 10/19/05 (0)
...the note immediately above yours.
But I do see a serious challenge here.
what people will view in this exchange... - dave c 13:39:25 10/19/05 (0)
... is that you appear to be a worthless troll.

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