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In Reply to: Uh, assuming cryogenic treatment actually has audibly... posted by B. King on October 12, 2005 at 19:51:46:

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A pretty poor waste of time. nt - B. King 20:19:53 10/12/05 (7)
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- should we assume you have tried it so as to have some experimental evidence for your claim? - dave c 12:53:45 10/13/05 (3)
  Because that is all we are claiming.
  If it doesn't work for you that's fine.
  The best results fro me have come from CDrs which have shown a dramatic improvement.
  Hey if you don't want to do it... don't.
  - I believe it was several years ago... - B. King 14:06:21 10/13/05 (2)
    ...I read about this in Stereophile or some other mag, so I did indeed try it. Hell, I even tried Sam Tellig's tweak of quarters on the corners of my speakers, lifting my cables off the carpet, and so on. Most of the home DIY tweaks I've tried at least once. And you know what? NONE of them worked for me. (Yeah, I know the mantra. My system doesn't have the resolving power, I did it wrong, it wasn't the right time of the month, etc.) So you can understand my skepticism. With regards to the original poster's home "cryogenic" treatment, freezing CD's, cables, or pictures of yourself in your freezer, is a helluva long ways away from doing the same in liquid nitrogen. If the results in true cryogenic conditions are debatable (I'm not saying they don't work), the likeyhood you're going to get anything audible at about 32 degrees F is slim to none. Oh, it may be fun for a free experiment. That's why I did it. But don't try to equate your home freezer with a true cryogenic treatment. That's like comparing a ride in a AA fuel dragster with dad's Buick.
    - Your freezer is at 0C!!! - dave c 15:53:15 10/13/05 (1)
      Mineis minus a lot!
      Minus 19 I think offhand.
      I know that's not real cryo temp and as I said I found it to work well on some things and not at all on others so my guess is its something to do with manufacturing and one, say, interconnect, need sdestressing while another doesn't, but then its free and I don't think anyone has claimed it can do any harm.
      - Actually that is -2 C for most refrigerators. - tubesforever 20:40:14 10/15/05 (0)
        
        In Reply to: Your freezer is at 0C!!! posted by dave c on October 13, 2005 at 15:53:15:
        
        I used to sell scientific refrigerators and freezers. Zero C is not cryogenically treated in any stretch of the imagination. A minus 70C is also not cryogenically treated item. We call this a deep freeze but not cryogenically frozen.
        Hope this helps somewhat.
        I am glad you are trying things for yourself. Dry ice would be an interesting test. This stuff is pretty cold and still safe as long as you open some windows.
        We don't want to be calling 911!
- BNot for our canadian friends - Jacques 00:50:08 10/13/05 (2)
  Depends. For those living in Canada, you just let your windows open a few hours from september to june. You're so close to liquid nitrogen temperatures that you should get a good result ;-)
  And writing on this asylum wouldn't be a "pretty poor waste of time" ?
  At least, those wastes of time are free!
  - Re: BNot for our canadian friends - no5oh 12:42:12 10/14/05 (1)
    I did this last winter, left my amp, cables, recepticles, etc, outside when we where getting overnight temperatures near -40. Went from the basement to the fridge to outside, then back again.
    I can't say it made any difference.
    STeve
    - I was just kidding ! - Jacques 00:30:52 10/18/05 (0)
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