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In Reply to: I apologize. It might be difficult for some. Sorry, I won't do anyone else's Patent research for free. posted by Jack Seaton on October 25, 2004 at 08:54:34:
This is from my original reply:"In case it isn't crystal clear, the short of what I'm saying is that if the group purchase is legal, it should happen and people shouldn't be bothered by it. If it is not legal, it should not happen, and I'm sure that if it were clear that it was not legal, none of the folks here would be advocating it. I also don't think we're going to find out from this forum alone whether or not the GP in question is legal or not."
We still do not have a clear answer. I don't deem myself qualiifed to determine the answer, and I don't have anywhere near enough of an interest in the answer to pay someone to determine it.
-Pete
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...and as I understand his take on the matter, we are not talking about a question of patent infringement. His view seems to be simply that there is an issue of fairness regarding competition.A group purchase bypasses the overhead that a standard commercial venture would incur, especially in regard to product promotion. He is not allowed by Asylum rules to promote his product on the Asylum and he feels that "we" should not be allowed to either. This, I think, is the crux of the ethical debate.
The other side of the debate is "Are "we" a commercial concern? Are "we" subject to the rules regarding commerce at Audio Asylum as well?"
I can certainly appreciate his concern. I am just trying to assess the validity of whether or not we are a commercial concern in competition other commercial competitors.
I would appreciate your thoughts on this subject as well as the thoughts every Asylum Inmate that cares to offer their opinion on the matter.
Check out an application of US PATENT 5599106
http://www.worksafetech.com/pages/ISO_Base2.htmlDaruma, FIM bases seem to be very similar.
US PATENT by Symposium leaves out the top plate. Why ? Is it because most probably a device will have a flat surface underneath ? What is the difference is this patent then ? I dont know !!!
Somebody knowledgeable should help us out with who is violating which patent.
...to be an original idea. His concern was not in this area however. His concern related to being at an unfair advantage in terms of competition. I see his point.I wouldn't imagine that he cares to see any more competition than he already has, but it is my distinct impression that he would rather see Hip Joints produced and represented as a traditional commercial offering, subject to the same rules of engagement that he is. I can't blame the man for that.
Given the controversy involved with this I would prefer to see Barry offer these as a traditional capitalist. I respect what he has done though in offering an effective design in a non-traditional mode of giving. I firmly believe that he enjoyed blessing people with his design and his motives were no more complex than that. I do know that he is tired of the controversy and is probably going to bow out. All this fuss has taken the joy out the process for him. I can't blame him. There are other factors that have influenced his thinking and I will just let him speak for himself.
I have been advised, by someone I respect greatly, that this whole issue isn't worth my trouble and I presumably will bow out as well.
I wanted to respond but didn't want it to be buried in the thread.
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