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In Reply to: RE: mmm-hmmm posted by sberger on June 03, 2014 at 21:21:00
SHHHHH..... Do not keep harping on the Sherwood vs Fisher comparison or pretty soon all the name droppers on the block will want one and drive the prices up like they did with the Fishers.
FWIW, years ago I found the Sherwood tube and 1st gen SS units knocked off pretty much all of the period competition including their S8000IV being better than the 500c and IMHO, the best tube receiver made.
I did a few years ago move out my S3000IV tuner and S5000II amp in exchange for a pair of their 1st gen SS units and find them as good both spec wise and in listening.
The company did some rather unorthodox things such as making an actual realistic usable loudness contour system with their tube amp and a great, though confusing for those used to conventional systems, volume and balance control.
One thing you may want to do with the S5000 is to scope it to determine where the tone controls are truly flat rather than relying on the dead of center method. Like most tone controls dead of center is not actually defeating the controls and I have seen enough of the original controls on them to realize they are maybe the weak spot in the component quality.
The S2100 is a bit of a rare bird it seems compared to the S3000. I guess maybe back then people were still using those big old floor standing AM radios.
Don Brian Levy, J.D.
Toronto ON Canada
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Thanks Brian for the suggestions.
Yes it has become clear to me not to necessarily trust dead of center as flat, and I've been experimenting with the S5000. It seems like the right channel has a lot less treble than the left channel so I've been using the balance controls to even things out. At some point I'm going to get this off to Mr. Samra to let him his do his dirty work.
Call Mikey Samra. He's pretty backed up at this point because of some medical issues he's getting over.I plan on sending him a Citation II, but not until this coming winter - per his request.
........I was a vegetarian for 15 minutes... until the main course.
Edits: 07/22/14
I dunno about Mike. The feedback here seems to indicate he is somewhere between a magician and warlock when it comes to get them to their potential. Wish I had know it when I had my S5000II. It was working in spec from the tech results here but, he thought there was potential to get it even better with some changes but he had no experience with the model and did not want to start digging into a customer's unit to experiment. He did buy one to dig into but closed shop and passed away not long after so likely never got to it. He especially loved and was amazed by the loudness contour system and as the old timer said, it was the only one he had ever seen that actually would do what it should with every speaker. i do wish Sherwood had kept it when it went ss. Yamaha in the CA610II used a similar setup. I guess though, Sherwood found the public just did not understand how a contour circuit should work preferring some arbitrary predetermined curve that bore no relationship to the speakers that all other used save maybe one other company.
I had thought about a couple of things he thought about, though. 1) convert the heaters to dc and, 2) replace the tone and volume controls with resistor based selectors though he felt the controls used were decent enough. Or, at least, for 2) mod to add a tone control defeat switch for each control.
Don Brian Levy, J.D.
Toronto ON Canada
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