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In Reply to: Re: Lamm ML2es posted by Jack G on September 24, 1999 at 04:44:30:
At this point, these amps have ZERO chance of getting an impartial review. He's obviously read the other reviews and is now asking for the input of others. You would think reviewers would know better than this, but there's at least one who doesn't.
Since the amps-any equipement-deserve better. It says alot about the reviewer tho.
Jack
What is unfortunate is that people knowing nothing about the query posted feel compelled to flaunt their ignorance. I asked if anyone had experience with sonic isolation and power cords for the ML2 amps. Obviously the illuminaries who responded here do not, in view of their obfuscatory remarks. Fortunately, other email responses have offerred useful information (posted thusly to avoid the inanities we have seen in this thread, I suppose). When I do a review I find it useful to get all the information I can on a product, especially how to set it up optimally. This is not always easy to do, and any information from the experiences of others is worth getting. It is interesting that most if not all reviews thus far on this product (and most others, for that matter) seem to pay little or no attention to proper setup of components, putting them in a good surrounding system, looking for the best power cords, cables, vibration isolation etc. This immediately leads one to question the veracity of such reviews. If others of you have information that would be of use for the ML2 set up, please let me know, probably by email to avoid the sharks.
the first consideration for ANY single-ended triode amplifier is the right speaker - high snesitivity, highish and flat impedance curve, simple Xover. Before you worry about AC cords and isolation platforms, what speaker are you going to hook the Lamms to?I would argue the vast majority of "problems" that have been associated with SETs/OTLs come from undereducated and technically incompetent reviewers hooking these topologies up to the usual audiofool speakers - low efficiency, impedance cuves with viscious dips into the nether regions, and crossovers whose schematics look like English garden mazes.
If you must ask for help, start by asking what speaker.
> > It is interesting that most if not all reviews thus far on this product (and most others, for that matter) seem to pay little or no attention to proper setup of components, putting them in a good surrounding system, looking for the best power cords, cables, vibration isolation etc.Perhaps you could supply the links to the reviews where this is fact (you can spare me your personal opinion). How do you know EXACTLY what attention was paid to setup? You, alone, are the only reviewer that cares about proper component or system setup? Give me a break. I guess your system as it exists is just PERFECT for the Lamms, and all the other systems they've been reviewed in are just not quite as worthy? For someone with your horrific arrogance, why even ask the opinions of us lower life forms?
Furthermore, a product should be reviewed as it is supplied from the manufacturer. Period. I'm not interested in a $200 product or a $30k product that only 'sounds good' if you slap a $3k power cord on it. Are you going to write the review on what the product sounds like, or on how you changed the sound by tweaking it? I'm interested in the former, but you can save the text on the latter.
Forgive me if I don't kneel, your highness (aka the Review God).
BillC
You can backpedal and lash out all you want, but the more fruitful response would have been "I made a mistake" and then learn from it. As a reviewer, you should grow some thicker skin, and fast.Also, at what point is a piece of equipment properly set up? How many power cords and isolation products does one need to use in order to achieve this? And in the end, isn't the piece of equipment you're reviewing what's most important?
Some of what you say is warranted, from one perspective. Nobody wants to have a sizable chunk of themself removed by a shark. But, it's wise to avoid cutting a slash in your neck or arm before you go swimming in shark-infested waters.Also depends on whose eyes we see through. The shark doesn't go around with a bad conscience..."oh I feel so bad, just ate a nice ole lady from Sheboygan..." He responds to cues in his environment.
And, YOU see the responses as a shark attack. The people responding reacted to--potentially--worrisome clues and cues in your original post. For their own purposes, not for yours. Just because you submit a post, doesn't mean that your goals and priorities become everyone else's goals and priorities. I see where you are coming from and understand your feelings on the matter. But, it's probably a good idea to try and see BOTH sides of the issue, and what lessons there are to be learned, rather than passing out judgement on who is or is not ignorant, etc....
:-)
Nah...originally from Joisey...now in PA.
Some of your previous statements telling people to base their purchases strictly on reviews. Or your statement that if equipement hasn't been reviewed, it must not be any good. Have you forgoten those? As for isolation and power chords, thats YOUR job. if you cannot figure out how to set it up(I assume you've contacted LAMM), they you shouldn't be reviewing it. Basically, you want the credit for a review, if everyone else works out all the tweaks for you, and hands it to you on a silver platter.
jack
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