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In Reply to: RE: Theory Man? posted by gusser on March 22, 2017 at 10:49:50
Mr. Marantz was not a "trained" engineer. He was interested in good sound and he enjoyed tinkering.
He hired engineers to help him follow his audio muse.
Those products were outstanding in their time but to continue to think they are some kind of benchmark is absurd.
If that is the case the engineers have not done much in the last forty years. Have they?
Mr. Fraker and Mr. Marantz have much in common.
Mr. Fraker does not expect the engineers of mass market audio equipment manufacturers to pay attention to what he has found. They are going after very different things. I bet those concerned with good sound pay plenty of attention to Mr. Fraker.
A lazy man cannot make a great amplifier. I have not heard Mr. Fraker's amps but would love to. But I do know it takes many trials to come up with something truly fine. Much easier to get a device to spit out good numbers and consider it done than to have to consider every aspect of an amplifier from components to layout WITH CONCERN for sonic quality first and foremost.
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Nice Jewish businessman. Mike Moffat and he spoke in 1978, at Ike Eisenson's San Diego store. Dahlquist speakers, Saul chain smoked. Mike was cool, as always, followed Saul's talk, my buddy Mike !!
See N.Y. Times write up. Humble beginnings.
Jeff
...once or twice is an understandable typo, more than that is not.
But look at the empires both of them built. Sal may not have been an engineer but he sure as hell understood their value and hired some of the best. As did Sarnoff.How many amplifiers has Marantz sold in the history of the company? How many had Dennis sold? Doesn't look like much in common to me.
And who said these classic amps were state of the art? I sure didn't. Compare them to a modern SS amp in measured performance. Today 0.001% distortion is achievable in a consumer product. They couldn't do that back then so I think it;s safe to say audio engineering has advanced quite a bit.
I have worked in the broadcast and later the Hollywood studio business of 35 years. The absolute top recording studios are in Hollywood and Nashville. I have never heard the name Dennis Fraker in any studio technical discussion. How many commercial customers are using his products? Who are the recognized audio manufactures that consult with Dennis? Surely with all the RAMF awards somebody would have brought him on board by now?
Edits: 03/22/17
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