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In Reply to: RE: A challenge to you all posted by SteveBrown on January 19, 2017 at 20:22:49
AA and DIY Audio fulfil different needs. Here it's discussion around various topics. On DIY Audio there are a lot of threads on actual builds with lots of photos and build information.
Rather than duplicate the functions of either group, I'd suggest using DIY Audio for builds.
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I can't be sure of your assertion, but I dislike the general paradigm in play and DIYaudio. I remember Kofi - funny dude - and his builds, well questions, not so many pix... but that was rare.Generally I have found DIYaudio to be measurement and technically-driven - an internal validity focus - often trivialising the importance of emotional connection with music (external validity). There are some exceptions that prove the rule, but they are rare. Each to their own, but not my scene... Before you ask, I did invest some time over there and I learned a lot from Thorsten and a few others, but I don't care for it now and moved on. So did they.
I'd like this community post their builds: their purpose, guiding principles, desired outcomes and results in preference to enduring the DIYaudio Tube forum. I am not suggesting it become insular though!.. just clear with what it is trying to achieve (and tolerate).
I think the members of this forum can make it great(er) again.
I need to go to bef... er, bed.
Cheers,
91.
"Confusion of goals and perfection of means seems to characterise our age." Albert Einstein
Edits: 01/20/17 01/20/17
How dare you bring a subjective reality of how something sounds to the mad hatters tea party or is that the party the subjective people,who listen to music, belong???
The reality is there is not a lot of building going on like 10-20 years ago. Lots of opinions but not a lot based on (external validity). Even worst is the ones who pride themselves in logic do not even get transistors can look real good on paper and scope but do they sound like DHT's. The other variables like reducing this number only to find out you screwed up 5 variables you can understand or measure yet.
So the moral of this story is you use the information from every one. The math guys can help you not blow things up and sometimes get you in the ball park. The subjective group, if you read between the lines, can help you with (external validity).
Enjoy the ride
Tom
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"Confusion of goals and perfection of means seems to characterise our age." Albert Einstein
I'd prefer this community post their builds: their purpose, guiding principles, desired outcomes and results in preference to enduring the DIYaudio Tube forum.> >
Well, this is what I mean. Conversation here can be more general - as you say, purpose, guiding principles etc.
But I thrive on DIY Audio. I love the build threads, and they are exactly what you want if you are contemplating building, in the process of building or have built particular designs. There are very long threads on the builds I do myself - 4P1L SET, 26 preamp, 01A preamp, Rod Coleman regulators, various DACs, Mark Audio speakers being examples. These get very detailed - choice of resistors, capacitors, wiring, chassis, connections, troubleshooting, mods etc.
You are not likely to get 600 posts on a particular subject here, but you easily get them on the more popular builds on DIY Audio.
So, as I say, they do different jobs. Both good.
The post layout here doesn't really lend itself to very long threads on builds. I read all 3800 posts on the type 26 DHT pre before starting mine. It would be a nightmare trying to do that here. And it works, too!
Hi Andy,I may not have been clear last night.
I am not suggesting that builders *only* post what drives their builds; more that they discuss the "why" (perhaps link the technical back to the sonic), not just the "what" and occasional "how".
I'd love to see more build threads here, but the branching nature and option for a "classic" view of the threads probably is not helpful. This is especially relevant to my builds, as they may take several months (or years!) and would spin off into other discussions and/or get buried over time.
I prefer the vibe here to the more expert-adherent, superiority vibe on DIYaudio... although, there are a few zealots here in AA... and they build and post more than others.
Cheers,
91.
"Confusion of goals and perfection of means seems to characterise our age." Albert Einstein
Edits: 01/20/17 01/20/17
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