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In Reply to: RE: Pioneer CT-93 Compared to Tandberg 3014A posted by Braxus on January 02, 2012 at 22:54:07
Nak is being making decks for ever even for others before they starded their on. Dragon started in 1980, and got better updates in 86. Before I had the Dragons I asked Jeff at ESL that I wanted the best Deck ever, I had the money aside to get the best, and he said what do you have in mind, and I said the 1000 ZXL, and he said why would you do that, and I said is the top of the the Nak decks, and he said is not, it is one of the best but is not, and I said well which is the best and he said the Dragon seems to be the best if done right, and I ask why, and he said newer technology, has the best azimuth in the world and can record like no other. You see some people will say the ZX-9 is the best recorder, some will say the CR-7A is the best, and some will say the 1000ZXL, and all I can say that a Dragon well done it is hard to beat having the ZX-9 and CR-7A. The Dragon was the deck that sold the best and the longest, it was embrace by the audiophile industry although it was never consider and audiophile piece, no cassette ever was. Your Tamberg is a great deck just as good as the Dragon. When you talked about the best is always the Tandberg and the Dragon and the 1000ZXL. I can get a BX300 and make sound great in my system, is the better decks that gives the edge with micro nuances, extesion detail that you can't hear with lesser decks. Again comes down to your speakres, amps. pre amps, CD Player, Turntable, cables to squeeze the most out of it. Don't worry so much what is the best, keep your Tanberg, buy a Dragon, own only 2 and make your system better and enjoy. Forget what others claim as deck sound is system dependent to hear the best.
-IAMHIFI
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And yet more comments:
"As I've said many times, for me, the Dragon is the far superior deck. It is the most musical sounding cassette deck I've heard and I've heard Tandbergs as well.
Of course, I can only speak for my set of ears. But my ears have made a nice living for me and I've been involved with music since I was 2 years old. -Jazzjene"
"Rather than define 'the best" I choose to argue that Nakamichi made different decks for different applications and different customers. We benefit because we can choose the best fit. Both ZXL decks and the Limited are extrordinary. These are cassette decks that perform as well as a Revox A77 at 7 1/2 ips, including headroom! Bass is flat down to 6 or 8 Hz. I've measured treble flat to 27kHz at -10dB. The ZXL decks are designed to be "auto everything" much like the CR7, but adapt to odd tape formulations (BASF, FeCr) effortlessly. They will record flat with both SA and SA-X rather than forcing a choice.
Frankly I'm happy with any classic mechanism whether it is DD or belt, or a hybrid. While the BX 300/ MR1 and CR7 are capable of excellent performance, Nakamichi intended these decks to be second tier to the Dragon and ZXL decks. If lowest possible flutter is your #1 priority, choose a classic. Each of the mechanical variations has its own distinctive flutter, but for 99.5% of us we may measure the differences but cannot hear them.
Are the ZXL decks "worth it"? Everyone I've communicated with says "yes". I think the sound improvements verge on subjective feelings rather than easy to identify performance shortcommings.- Nacdoc"
"I spoke to a couple of real Nak technicians about it, and they all agreed that this was THE one to have. The best of the best, as far as they were concerned. -Bigerik"
"I've never had my hands on one of these (I'd love to, but I'd have to find a screaming deal on one to consider it). But I seem to recall NakDoc saying one time that this was the best sounding machine that he's ever come across. -Goldear"
So as I said before- no one can agree on this perticular deck. I get more nods for the Dragon though then the 1000ZXL.
when the DBX 122 Type 2 Noise Reduction unit is added on the chain. I have the old trusty Tandberg TCD 440 A that I've compared to other Naks such as the ZX-9 and my old 680ZX in my ear when the DBX was on the chain that functioned as a noise reducer the sonic quality between the 3 decks were the same. Quiet as a tomb, very open, tight, with wide and deep soundstaging and on top of that the DBX 122 Type 2 Noise Reduction unit upsampled the frequency response to a true 20-20,000Hz coupled with a 120dB signal to noise ratio, instead of the usual 70-80dB.
If a thing's worth doing, it's worth doing well
(Proverb)
Edits: 01/04/12
Best recordings and playback on tape is made without any kind of double way Noise Reduction.
The 440A is a great deck of the time and the best of Tandberg's Pre-3000 serie cassette deck.
However, the later TCD 3004/3014/3014A/910/911 surpasses it noticable in sound quality.
Niklas
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