I'm perfectly a potential victim to comprehension errors.However
"Next, insert the disc to be upgraded in the player, push "Play" and allow the disc to play for 2 seconds"
or
"The Chip can also be placed on top of the player while the disc is already playing with similar results"
or
"If left on top of the player, the Chip will not function until the next disc to be upgraded is inserted in the player and played."
or
"the upgrade will e completed in 2 seconds of playing"
to me sounds like "put the chip onto the CD player, insert a CD and spin it", does it not ?
What is similarly amusing is that you seem to know THAT I'm wrong, but you are not capable or willing of telling me/us WHERE I'm wrong, WHY I'm wrong and WHAT is right.
BTW, I just went to Machina Dynamica's site and saw that the passage anouncing the soon-to-come DEFINITIVE EXPLANATION has been re-inserted. I'm looking forward to reading it.
Klaus
Follow Ups:
- One simple question: can you read ??? (I'm quoting yourself, so don't pull the Muettersprache card on me!) - clarkjohnsen 08:04:03 03/26/05
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> To me sounds like "put the chip onto the CD player, insert a CD and spin it", does it not? I am unable to confirm what it sounds like to you. All I can tell you is that a bullheaded imagination will produce consistently erroneous results. And you, sir, are wrong. Think outside your mind and you may arrive at the solution, it's certainly been described elsewhere hereabouts.
"You are not capable or willing of telling me/us WHERE I'm wrong." I am perfectly capable, but you never asked! You prefer to just keep berating me. Not a good policy. So now you'll have to go it alone. Bonne chance!
clark
- It's "Muttersprache" to begin with... - KlausR. 08:35:54 03/26/05
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2. please tell me what "push "Play" and allow the disc to play for 2 seconds" means in plain English
3. a bit further up in this thread I did ask for an explanation. Still waiting. Obviously it's easier to post enigmatic subject lines without any further details, or, in those cases where there IS a message body to throw vague and ambigous text passages into the discussion. If you have an interest to clarify this issue once and for all, why don't you just go ahead and do it. Shall we bend out knees and beg?
Klaus
- Re: It's "Muttersprache" to begin with... - clarkjohnsen 08:51:11 03/26/05
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> 2. please tell me what "push "Play" and allow the disc to play for 2 seconds" means in plain English. It means "Push Play and allow the disc to play for 2 seconds".
But I have told you to consider other possibilities and STOP HARPING on the spinning. My God, man -- it's not that difficult, but you're fixated on a wrong idea.
clark
- A first step in the good direction... - KlausR. 11:12:40 03/26/05
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you admit that I was right when I said that the disc has to spin. Nice. Just wanted to get that sorted out. Because it means, whatever the working principle of that chip is, that it has something to do with a spinning disv, that it would not work on a stationary disc. Perhaps the chip establishes some magic link to the disc's TOC.
But no, I can not imagine a working principle other than said magic. No, wait, it's quantum computing. The chip reads the disc TOC, recognizes the incorrect data, the quantum computer is activated by daylight, tells the machine how to avoid the wrong data. But alas, I see an obstacle here, how does the chip communicate with the TOC? Drat, wrong direction.
Any idea yourself?
Klaus
- The dics does NOT have to spin. Can't you get that out of your head? - clarkjohnsen 11:38:09 03/26/05
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I told you to, what's wrong with you? You'll never arrive at the answer believing *that*. clark
- Re: The dics does NOT have to spin. Oh really? - KlausR. 21:29:37 03/26/05
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When I push the "play" button of my payer, the disc spins. I may possibly safely assume that that is the case for all players on this planet.
When the disc does not have to spin, why do the instruction tell you to insert a disc and push "play"? Or even better, why do they say that you also can place the chip on the CD player while the disc is already playing?
If the chip has an effect on a disc without the spin, why don't the instructions simply say "take a CD, open its jewel case, place the chip onto it, let it work for 2 seconds, put the chip back into its protective case."
I have to note that I've asked you a lot of questions but what I did not get was answers.
Klaus
- I certainly have a VERY healthy skepticism about the IC but I think - sjb 11:19:24 04/02/05
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the play thing is about activating the laser not about spinning the disc (per se). At least that's what I've gathered from reading various explanations. Of course no one can explain how such a low powered laser could penetrate the CD and the cd player case...but then the believers don't need to bother themselves with such trivialities.
"Where are we going? And what am I doing in this hand basket?"
- You're right... - KlausR. 05:38:51 04/03/05
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Clark could have told that instead of running circles. So the chip is activated by the CDP's laser, which means that laser light must leave the CDP at some point. Would a CDP which contains leaks for laser emission ever get approval (technically speaking) ?
A laser produces a very tight beam so that the chip would have to be put directly into that beam in order to activate its Q-dot. Just placing the chip at random anywhere close to the CDP won't do the job. Yet another question that would need an answer. Clark, your turn!
Klaus
- "Of course no one can explain how..." And your proof of that sweeping statement, is...? - clarkjohnsen 20:58:55 04/02/05
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O Mensch, gibt Acht! clark
- "But what I did not get was answers." I have told you repeatedly... - clarkjohnsen 08:51:03 03/28/05
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...that you must disabuse yourself of that notion imbedded in your head and think anew. The answer is obvious. That's my final statement.
clark
- Re: "But what I did not get was answers." I have told you repeatedly... - Mudcat 04:04:40 03/29/05
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"The answer is obvious" The only thing obvious is that the chip is complete bullshit, and that Clark Johnsen is full of shit too. Otherwise he would fess up that he does not actually know how the chip works (since it can't by his explanations). Just because it's audio, doesn't mean it is allowed to violate the physical laws of the universe.
- No reply from JSMR (yet), no explanation from you, ...John Curl remains silent... - KlausR. 09:55:47 03/28/05
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you can't do that. How can we continue without knowing, sniff. But wait, there's light on the horizon, Machina Dynamica is waiting in the wings, their DEFINITIVE DEFINITION should bring back peace to audio planet. In the meantime I'm listening to Enya.
Klaus
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