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In Reply to: RE: Sound beyond Horns? posted by catbert242000@yahoo.com on November 13, 2021 at 13:17:58
. . . other types may disappoint. Conventional box and planar designs may have flatter frequency response and more coherent phase/time behavior between drivers, but they just can't get that "jump factor" that is unique to horns and can make good recordings sound scary-real.
I've not owned horn speakers myself, but have heard a number over the years, in showrooms and at friends' houses. One guy had some big Klipsches (Forte?), and while they could get a little edgy in the treble, they played big orchestral music with color and drama I've never heard elsewhere.
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Yup.
I own a big, fully horn loaded system (except frequencies under 70Hz that is) in a room that is too small for them. And while I'm fully aware of their limitations in that environment (coherency between ways isn't perfect, treble can be edgy - but I'm working on it- stereo image lacks depth and isn't "pin point") they still imbue music with a reactivity, jump factor, and "front row" feeling that's sorely missed whenever I listen to other, more polite and "reserved" types of speakers.
I'm a happy camper. They might not be for everyone (clearly they aren't) but for me there's no way back.
Interesting as I find it's horn's pin-point accurate imaging that's one of their biggest attractions. I've never before had soloists sitting on my equipment rack and singing just for me. Granted if I move a few feet from my normal listening chair, this illusion is significantly lost but the sound still has its life-like sparkle. Setting up and precise toe-in angle is essential for best imaging.
Edits: 11/16/21
Horns vary as much in dispersion, tonal balance and imaging as other types of speakers. My experience is that a given compression driver sounds quite different on a 60 degree horn than on 90 degree horn and different yet on a 120. Horns should be matched to rooms and needs. DIYers have an advantage here.
one of Tom Danley's synergy horns where all drivers radiate consistent directivity via the same "mouth".
Like many, however, I suspect that more distance to listener for optimum image size is required than my room would support.
I agree. Horns not necessarily the most accurat, but probably the most exciting type of speaker. I'm on my 3rd pair of Avantgardes. Have also owned big ATC, Martin Logan, Quad, KEF.
New Forte IV model gets ....or rather GOT some good coverage from Stereophile which pronounced it an improvement over the III model.
Some improvements to drivers and crossover. So not a 'trivial' model number change.
I need to get up to LaLa land for a listen.....
Too much is never enough
These Mach speakers will shock you in person !
My next speakers will be from Grandinote !
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