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In Reply to: RE: Decoupling Speakers - Springs vs. Herbie's posted by mitch2 on September 14, 2020 at 14:07:33
Go to your foot care isle in any store and get Gel insoles or Gel pads. They are made of the SAME!!!!! viscoelastic material the thousand dollar pads are made of.
Also, unless your speakers are made of some cheap thin cabinet material, they shouldn't be ringing like a bell - and causing a need to decouple.
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Maybe these...
those look good to me
the right material and shape and not too pricey
as their ad type states the same materials are at the heart of all vibration products, and that is the truth
regards,
Farther down the page.
The silicone based (like Herbies) are supposed to be quite a bit superior. At least from what I've read.
I like Airtime's suggestion to repurpose silicone based gel products. In fact there are some that are already square or circular at economical pricing I think I might explore further.
Unfortunately on back burner. Much of the stuff I'm waiting for winter months to experiment.
Cheers!
Jonesy
"I know just enough to get into trouble. But not enough to get out of it."
ALL cabinets ring. Only some of the crazy expensive ones have Minimal ringing(look at the Stereophile tests). Just put your hand on most cabinets and you can feel the vibration. That's uncontrolled sound coming off the cabinet walls. And while it's usually low level sound the cabinet has large area, much more than the drivers.
Not me. I have made my own sand boxes and put inner tubes under gear. So far, my favorite decoupling option has been springs I purchased from Century Spring at about $5 each. When I was researching the EVP pads ($105 each for the larger size I need) I found Owens Corning 703/705, which appears to be very similar to (or the same as?) the material used in the EVPs. If I were to go that route, I would very likely try making my own.
solutions in search of a problem combined with status badges probably
add a dash of imaginative audio nervosa and wave goodbye to big bucks
I'm with you airtime, innovate & overcome
regards,
Bullshit. I've tried many many DIY "solutions", and NONE have been better than Herbie's, IsoAcoustics, et.al, although I could argue with Vibrapods vs. DIY. When talking to "Herbie" he suggested using RTV silicone instead of caulking, you might want to start there, unless you have sensitive measuring equipment. This is not pseudoscience--use your ears, and listen to the experts.
that's some pretty powerful anecdotal evidence there Ric
I maintain that the same viscoelastic material is the same viscoelastic material no matter where it's acquired or price
*shrug*
All of the commercially viscoelastic materials are the same molecular formula. They alter the "elastic" or modulus by increasing or decreasing the molecular density.
In short, the thousand dollar miracle disc IS the same molecular formula as the $5 foot pad at CVS.
BS! my expectation bias proves you wrong!
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