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In Reply to: RE: Those darn measurements ! posted by RGA on June 27, 2017 at 03:48:15
More garbage !
a good tooby has no such sound , there is no softening or added decay and while many toobs amplifiers have that effect , really good toob amplfiers are not an effects box like you describe..
This is another issue where Speaker measurements matter , take the impedance phase and magnitude , this is very critical on toob amps with output transformers/speaker relationship, choose the wrong tap and you create an effects box and since most compromise by only having a 4ohm tap for ZMin , you will have to be very selective when choosing your speakers to match your output transformers and amp limitations ..
* Impedance zmin -Transformer relationship
Speaker FR means nothing when your amplifier is an effects altering Box under real world load ..
Btw , every genre of amplfiers known to man resides here , SS ,toobs and hybrids, what you wont find are small woody colored 2 way speakers looking for an effects amplfier ..
Tube amplifiers sound different from eachother. That's why tube manufacturers make different tube amps to appeal to the appetites of different people. Thats why I laugh at the idiots who always claim I am all AN all the time. The OTO is an EL84 and I like the EL 84. I would not buy the Soro or Meishu. None of these three amplifiers sound the same. They each have their appeal. That's why they've sold them all for 25+years.
And the capitalist market decides on the quality of speakers over the long run. Speakers you buy new for $3000 and 10 years later you sell for $3,500.
A few cranks on a forum can say whatever they wish. The sales figures, the audiophile market, the reviews, and the blind level matched sessions is what speak. And nefative constant spiral threads actually generate more free advertising for the speaker. So every time you go after them...mire sales for Auduo Note. PS it's also how I got noticed and into becoming a reviewer. It's peiple like you who allow me to get 40-60% off stereo equipment. So thank you for making me richer. Plus when i say stuff i get 70000 unique hits on my opinions...while you have 30 people reading a forum about what you have to say. Chortle chortle.
BTW Bose outsells AN, makes them superior per your typical ironic rants ..., :)
There is this thing called apples to apples comparisons.
Bose doesn't sell to audiophiles (they aren't apples they're doughnuts) - they sell to people who read GQ and who know nothing about high end audio - please list 5 reviewers who own current Bose as their primary listening system.
Even keeping it apples to apples (high end audiophile speaker brands) between say $5k and $10k designed for a Medium average sized room - Considering that the speakers are AN's tertiary business and many brands only design and manufacturer speakers - there is a high proportionality of AN J and E owners among the review press who have gone out and auditioned large portions of the competition. B&W is the largest selling Audiophile approved speaker maker. I bet more stereo reviewers own Audio Note than own B&W in that price range for example.
Magnepan would be high on the list as well - and while I don't particularly like the sound of Magnepan loudspeakers I am not blind to admit that a lot of people like them including reviewers. I don't begrudge Magnepan fans and owners for raving on about something they like.
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