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In Reply to: RE: good measuring speakers posted by A.Wayne on June 25, 2017 at 13:50:29
Well, you will be interested to know that last Saturday I had a friend come over and bring his Devialet 120 to hook up to my Odeon horns.
The result was...ok actually. It is smooth and the highs were not as disturbing as I usually find them with Class D. Bass was also surprisingly good (ok we boosted the Devialet by 4.5db...it has some eq function built in). However, and for me this is a big, HOWEVER, the soundstage and images within that soundstage flattened out considerably, thus significantly lessening the realism effect from the music. My friend heard this as well, sighed, and said he was happy it sounded as good as it did on the horns. He has Reference 3a speakers and I have heard this Devialet on those speakers too and it sounded better on the Odeons.
That was with digital. With analog (feeding the TT directly into the Devialet as it has my cartridge on file) it was not so great and we listened rather briefly to it this way because it was a rather large step back from my rig (Silvaweld phono pre, NAT Plasma pre, Ayon Crossfire III).
Resolution between the two systems (devialet vs. toobs) was pretty similar (i.e. there were no ear opening revelations from one to the other in terms of details and small sounds) but micro and macro dynamics were better served with the toobs and the above mentioned spatial qualities (more open and yet more 3d and palpable with the toob rig). The net effect was realism factor was significantly higher whereas Devialet kind of overdamped things. Not too badly, mind you, it was a pretty decent listen and if you didn't compare/contrast you might even really like that sound. In the end we went back to my setup and I was like AH and my friend was nodding his head as well. Still, he paid relatively little for his Devialet compared to my rig so he was satisfied on that point.
Have you tried any SET's on the Odeon's ?
I like the Devialets but in mono form , they are nothing sound wise like what a good SET does and i have never heard a single Devialet playing in stereo mode my HIFi friends who have them all went to mono mode after being very disappointed in them in stereo mode and said the contrast was huge . A pity you never tried feeding your phono pre into the Devialet for a quick comparison ..
What do you think the Ayon Crossfire is? Before that Wall Audio Opus M50 monos (parallel 6C33C) before that JJ322 (parallel 300B...still have this one) and before that NAT Symbiosis SE (hybrid SET). Also, we have run the KR Audio VA350i on it as well as some push/pull triode (Vac 30/30 and Pure Sound A30). So, mainly ONLY set has been run on them...at 98db/watt there is no need for more.
Funny that you mention mono. I have a friend who has the biggest monos from Devialet and couples them with a really nice pair of Piega planar hybrid speakers. However, it doesn't really sound very good. That is why he has now built another system around the Odeon No. 32, Lamm M1.1 hybrids, Lampizator Golden Atlantic and soon to be acquired Aries Cerat Incito preamp. Even without the Incito it whips the crap out of the Devialet/Piega combo. You put the electronics from that "big rig" onto the Piegas and it might very well sing nearly as sweetly.
Of course, would going mono with Devialets REALLY make a sonic improvement on a speaker where we are normally cruising well below 1 watt of output on the amp? Hard to understand that really. How can having even more circuitry cure the problem?
For me, going with monoblocks is more about the benefits of separation of signal, and extremely short speaker cables than power, watts are cheap these days.
Good watts are not cheap at all...
Go back to 1950 and try to buy a 200watt/channel amp, then get back to me on that lol.
I wouldn't have wanted one then and I don't want one now.
Which model Pieaga ...?
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