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In Reply to: RE: Here are pictures and information posted by rbogartr on March 23, 2017 at 16:12:37
I am not seeing the cloudiness. I have found Kevin to be a delight on the phone and have made a few purchases from him. His offer to refund you 200.00 is more than fair IMHO. Since the speakers are under warranty, why not send them back to the manufacturer to see what they say about the finish?
"everything under the sun is in tune but the sun is eclipsed by the moon."
Interesting. It's very easy to see in both Mr. deal's and rbogartr's pic. Also, in rbogartr's pic you can see the streaks/runs in the finish. Take a closer look. I bet you'll see it.
Nice of Kevin to chime in here, proves that he is a stand-up guy.
I concur that there are (2) different finishes (for whatever reason) on these speakers. Certainly not brownish in any way, yes, to cloudy/milky dull appearance.
One last thing. The pictures Kevin posted I never saw until tonight. He did not send them to me. Second it is hard for me to capture the details on a Cell phone picture. In person it is shocking. Third, He never mentioned the appearance of the speakers in our" unusual Phone conversation". Ask your self, why then did he take pictures before he shipped them? No detail on the finish but oddly enough showing just enough to proof they do not match in color or quality. As far as why I gave up trying to contact him by phone, I left multiple messages for 2 days with two different folks at Upscale expressing that I wanted to place an order for the speakers. The told me I would need to talk to Kevin. He never returned my calls. I caught him at the end of the third day and that's when we had the "unusual phone conversation" in which he refereed to the members of this forum and those of Audiogon as Guys in their underwear scratching their asses. Now you have both sides of the story.
but here's what I would guess.
We have a house that's narrow and thee stories facing west with HUGE windows in front looking out to the ocean. If and when the sun comes out (and it often does in San Francisco, if only for an hour before sunset) it cooks the place. We bought cabinetry in the kitchen (which is in the front of the house) which is(was) bright red, much like those speaker WERE when new.
It took about a year for us to notice fading on the sides facing the front windows, and this with shades drawn in the afternoon and evening on most but not all days.
If these were in a showroom near a window during the time Upscale had them in inventory, that might explain the differences in color.
Just a thought.
See if the fading is on one side or both.
My one speakers woofers faded that way.
Return them. Think of the resale value if you ever decide to sell them.You would take a big hit on mismatched speakers!
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