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In Reply to: RE: Heard any of Boenicke's speakers? nt posted by PAR on March 06, 2017 at 00:59:20
The problem is that no one can audition everything. It's probably a BIG reason Stereophile has the min number of dealers policy because there are simply way too many companies out there and there has to be a weeding process. In other words can the company actually remain established such that they will be around say in 4 years should you need warranty work?
And this is important because sound should not be the ONLY consideration when buying gear. Dealer and manufacturer support, resale value (or even the ability to sell them at all), build quality, aesthetics, ease of drive are just some of the reasons to include in the buying process.
I live in Hong Kong - there are a lot of things I can review but they are not available in the US or Canada or even the UK so what's the point? I think I was the first person to review Line Magnetic but they have a US importer. Still at the time they were an unknown.
The Chinese speakers look similar but I have not seen the inside.
The poorer measurements don't necessarily put me off - IMO SET amps sound the best and without equal and they measure the worst.
Pair matching is important if you want the left speaker to sound like the right speaker.
I have never really liked speakers with side firing woofers - the fancy explanations never really seem to work very well when I hear them. I have liked a few like Gallo and Studio Electric that worked but neither I would call integration champs.
Yes, agree with all you say except that the Boenicke measurements are so eccentric that, as I said, I wouldn't start from there i.e I wouldn't go out of my way to hear a pair. However, as you imply, I could be missing out on something.
Well I would not start with the measurements or go out of my way to hear them either. With so-so measuring gear I would rather the overall market decide.
As you may know I own Audio Note E speakers and before that Js and before that K's. I have been auditioning speakers for 25 years and this sound does it for me - but the measurements certainly wouldn't sway me to go out of my way to listen either. Unlike Boenicke though there is a very long track record of raves in the press that they should be worth going out of one's way - problem is with so-so measurements how does one keep that inherent bias out of the audition. When you read something and conclude "well it will be coloured or has X or Y issue" you will hear those things being predisposed to expect them. Expectation bias. Yet I don't see any of the self proclaimed objectivists running any DBTs to be sure.
It's one of the reasons I bought the great measuring LS-50 so I can crosscheck against an industry standard "good measuring" loudspeaker.
Still for around $3900-$4500 I would take the AN J/D and J/Lx as my standard to judge everything else off of. I did for 13 years. So the first questions I ask of the challenger would be:
Does it sound as good?
Is it as easy to drive?
Is it as full range - in terms of bass and dynamics?
Will it play all the genres of music in my collection as well or only some?
What will the resale value be when I sell it (and how difficult will it be to sell if I sell). A relative no name brand is harder to get rid of.
I generally prefer to stick to established entities and I think the press probably should cover the brands who have earned their place in the market over the new kid on the block vying for a seat at the table. Some company that comes along selling $10k+ products without any track record.
Since the thread has a number of youtube videos of speakers I think my Trust AN J variant does quite well.
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