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In Reply to: RE: B&W 801 S2 Fatigue VS. 802 S2 No Fatigue? posted by davidstro@yahoo.com on February 07, 2017 at 11:36:31
The Threshold shouldn't be matched with any speaker that leans towards the bright side. And you did mention your Yamaha's preamp may be contributing to any brightness. What surprises me is that combination worked fine with your original B&W's.
I don't know which model Yamaha you have, but I would think a dedicated pre-amp should help things sound better all around. And maybe, just maybe, help the 801's sound better.
The ADS or Infinity's you mention in your new thread may be the answer without changing out your Yamaha.
Best "old classic" matches for your amp would be 80's Infiniity, KEF, VMPS, Martin Logan, Apogee and Magneplaner lines. That's quite a range, and fortunately you are lucky to have an amp that can run the required impedance loads.
Sounds like you are purchasing without having the opportunity to preview. Would be really good if you can borrow product to audition.
Cheers!
Jonesy
"I know just enough to get into trouble. But not enough to get out of it."
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Thanks for all the feedback and advice!
After lots of listening and experimenting with speaker placement, I've given up. I have gone back to my 802 S2's and they just sound so much better. I can listen to them at fairly high levels with zero fatigue. They sound much more balanced and natural. Sure, on some material I miss the deep bass extension, but with the Anodyne EQ, the 802s sound even better than before.
Additionally, I'm still surprised that the 801s mids and highs are so different than the 802s. The 801s are much, much more revealing and the source material and gear differences are more readily ascertained.
Something interesting happened when listening to a Sun Kil Moon track on the 801s. I've heard the particular song on the 802s hundreds of times but on the 801s I heard something that threw me. I thought to myself, "what the hell is that sound?" I thought maybe it was some strange distortion or even something clawing on a nearby window or wall. It turned out to be the the guitarist's pick rapidly striking/strumming/scraping on his nylon strings.
Anyways, I've decided to try to find the 801's a good, new home where they can be appreciated.
You're right about it being about trade offs. Sure, you could hear the pick, but along with that came harshness. If you were to continue, you would end up having to build your system around the 801's until you got to a point where you could just enjoy the music.
Fun to explore, but as you said, everything sounds more balanced now That's not an easy thing to achieve in itself.
Thanks for sharing your experiences, and the many more that I'm sure will come when the "itch" returns.
Cheers!
Jonesy
"I know just enough to get into trouble. But not enough to get out of it."
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