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In Reply to: RE: Not their high-end speaker at the time... posted by Ivan303 on January 20, 2017 at 09:07:07
Getting parts is critical to owning speakers.
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Reply from the manufacturer: Regarding the repair, of course it depends of how far in time are we talking about. What I can say, is that currently, we do have replacement units available and we do expect to have some for the upcoming 5 years or so at least.
I think speakers at this age needs to be 75% off. I think I should pay $2000 max.
75% off of the new price 16 years ago? It is not realistic to expect all used audio equipment to follow some kind of fixed pricing structure. Reputation and desirability (demand) also comes in to it. As does monetary inflation which should not be overlooked - otherwise you are expecting a kind of double discount ( the original owner paid with the value of the dollar twenty years ago, not today - every $1000 spent then is worth $1356 now).So $2K? If the seller agrees then fine, that's bargaining, but don't necessarily expect it.
Edits: 01/20/17
I agree there is no rule of thumb.
Look at what 20 year old McIntosh gears sells for. Even Bob Carver Sunfire stereo amps from 20 years ago are getting 75% of original msrp.
Speakers do tend to loose more value as they age.
Yes indeed and some used items cost more now than their list price at the time of manufacture. Including some speakers.
Think of a pair of Quad ESLs manufactured in, say, 1969. They were roughly 114 gbp a pair in thier homeland (actual price was 54 gns each - then they were sold singly). That's about $140. If anyone can find a good pair of them for $140 then they are more than in luck! With the OP's reckoning they ought to be around $35 a pair or less. Over here currently they sell for the equivalent of around $1000 plus.
Of course Garrard 301 and 401 turntables now cost considerably more than their original price.
Just some examples there of why monetary inflation has to be accounted for.
I have concluded that what the OP really means is that he can't afford them.
Just curious... is it smart to discuss your price negotiating strategy in a public forum?
:)
I've read a book or two on negotiating strategy and spent some years in sales. Let's just say public disclosure prior to negotiating with the other party isn't typical.
KOCA-
what other gear, including cabling, is in your system?
I listened to them connected to Octave V40 amp and AVM CD player/high end turntable. Very good equipment and of course it played the best with the LPs and good recorded CDs played good and bad ones played REALLY bad. Like it is supposed to, trash in trash out.
I cannot say I was WOWed and I was there with my wife who I trust her ears more than mine. She was not TOO impressed either. Though, definitely they sound better than my Audio Note AZ-1 and Elac UB5s.
I must say though, the speakers (although the equipment was top notch) were not set up properly. Big Wilson Audio speakers were there. Tight space. So, I am not going to say I cannot be wowed with them when set up properly.
@PAR: Yes, it is very expensive for me. I do know some products go above their original/market value but Verity Audio products are no classic (not yet at least).
@mlsstl: There is no negotiating here, I was just telling my opinion. It is just speakers. I cannot pay $2700 for them.
@fantja: My current setup (speakers are above), Logitech Squeezebox Touch, DH Labs BL1 interconnects, Harmonic Tech speaker cables, Chord Mojo DAC and TPA3116 Digital Amp.
TY- KOCA
very few people know how (or care enough) to set up loudspeakers correctly.
This is an art unto itself. Happy Listening!
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