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In Reply to: RE: I don't think you understand that each speaker is controversial posted by middleground on February 10, 2012 at 18:05:44
For me every one is controversial as you will always find someone that does not or and someone that do like it. The fact that some controversies are more published does not make one them any more valid than those that are less published.
Therefore, buying any one speaker is controversial choice.
If he wanted to discuss specific ones, he should have stated so, which he refused, making his with no point of reference and question ultimately meaningless.
Follow Ups:
Yep, what is the point of the original post?Perhaps when posting these types of questions we could be clear:
> Do we need help with a specific purchasing decision?
> Are we seeking greater general understanding? Or
> Are we putting forward some hypothesis to debate?Then it would be clearer to all and it might save some people wasting their time posting when an original poster has something entirely different in mind.
Cheers.
Edits: 02/12/12
i did name two speaker brands that seem to elicit strong opinions both ways (B&W and Wilsons) but i tried to play down those examples, as stated in my o.p. as i did not want the post to turn into YET ANOTHER dialogue of love/hate comments about those two speaker brands. my post is not meaningless - controversy does exist and it does have meaning beyond mere disagreement here and there. you can have this proven by placing a post called "Bose is wonderful" and (a more neutral example) "harbeth is wonderful" and see the difference.
H.F.N.
Do not know how to spell it better for you.
If you want to discuss controversy about those two specific speakers do so.
General question is meaningless as EACH and ANY, absolutely EACH and ANY, speaker choice is controversial as EACH and ANY speaker is flawed. As a result there is not a speaker that suits all tastes/preferences/spaces.... The only difference between let say B&W "controversy" and let say Monitor audio "controversy" is how much you hear about one or the other.
If one suits your tastes/preferences/spaces... that is one that you should buy and enjoy - buying based on the someone elses t/p/s... or future resale value is idiotic.
perhaps you lack English language use on some level. "flawed" (your wording) and "controversy" (my repeated wording) are two words with significantly different meanings. do i need to spell out the differences? nextly, don't play the subjective card (depends on taste, all tastes are different, everyone prefers something different). that is just plain mindlessly obvious and leads to nowhere.
H.F.N.
I know exactly what I wrote.
Not surprisingly, you are either not capable or willing to understand what has been written. And than you try to categorize my post as "subjective card" only.
IMHO, quite typical for your posts. Buy.
So you either have complete agreement or controversy? I think that there is a logical fallacy covering this at work here, something about the absent middle.
nt
There are two kinds of fools: one says, This is old, therefore it is good ; the other says, This is new, therefore it is better.
- William Ralph Inge
stale argument: the old relativity card being played with no distinction made.
H.F.N.
Sorry- just ran out of Troll food.
There are two kinds of fools: one says, This is old, therefore it is good ; the other says, This is new, therefore it is better.
- William Ralph Inge
translation: can't support your reasoning. might as well keep reverting to the relativity line. let me help you practice thoughtless thinking:
"everything is subjective"
"all is relative"
"no one size fits all"
have i missed any cliche truisms to comfort the mind?
H.F.N.
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