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I'm getting ready to purchase some new speaker stands - the Studio Tech SC 24. A stand with 4 massive sandfillable colums.I know a lot of people use blue tacks between stand and speaker.
However, I'm trying to figure out how my mini monitors will best benefit from this rigid stand.If I use the rubber feet that come with the stand - the speaker can still move back and forth as the cones set the speaker cabinet into motion.
With my old stands I have used 3 spikes unter the speaker and loosly screwed the speaker to the stand for safty reasons.
There are a few options I'm considering:
- Setting the speaker just on top of the little rubberfeet, that come with the stand.
- Setting the speaker just on top of the blue tack
- Using the 3 cones between the stand and the speaker
- Setting the speaker on top of the little rubbetrfeet, that come with the stand and than tightly screw the speakers to the stand.
- Setting the speaker just on top of the blue tack and screwing them tightly to the stand.
- Using the 3 cones between the stand and the speaker and than screwing the speakers tightly to the stand.What is you ropinion or recommendation?
Thanks
Follow Ups:
Yes,give your speakers a good screwing on and off the stands would be good idea.
cao.
Ok - here is the Blu Tak pitch - it forms a (nearly) solid coupling between the stand and the speaker - all without destroying the finish.
Blu tak is a 'poster' fixing compound that is viscoelastic. i.e. it behaves as a very viscous fluid (like treacle) at freqencies at low frequency - above this it behaves elastically - tightly coupling the two jointed materials - kind of like a glue with frequency dependant give... so it is used to couple the mass of the stand to the speaker whilst preventing resonance on either side of this boundary to pass....Try it, it'll cost little more than a few screws, and can be used to put pictures up if you do not like it....
Owen
The object of a massive stand is to damp the speaker, so it must be rigidly attached. I would only put the minimum between the two strictly for the purpose of protecting the finish. You have effectively made a much more dense, heavier speaker.If the stand were lightweight, you would want to completely isolate the speaker with damping material so that you don't excite any resonances in it, and of course damp the speaker.
GM
If I understand you correctly it is best to tightly screw the speakers to the stand, so that the heavy and ridig stands and the speakers become one.
Since I already have drilled some smaller holes in my speakers to attach them to my old speaker stands, I'm not so much concerned about the finish (since I propably keep those speakers for the rest of my life)
So, what should I put between speaker and stand before I srew them tightly together?
Anything that has virtually no resonance, such as a small amount of BluTack, a piece of thin cardboard, just something to act as a gasket for a resonance free fit.GM
I advise you to listen to your speakers with different level of tightness in terms of coupling with the stands. My take on this is you probably wont like too much tightness. It usually sounds too thin and pinched. Why? Because all stands, regardless of mass and material has some kind of resonance signature that can affect the sound of the speakers.
FWIW, if he packs the pipes (no voids) with dried sand as they are meant to be, the resonance of the stands will be below the audible passband of the speakers, so will only act to damp them without adding any parasitic resonance.This allows the speaker to perform at it's best WRT harmonic distortion. If it sounds too 'thin', then all this tells me is that the speaker has shortcomings in its BW, and needs to be addressed somehow.
Of course, if you like the 'sound' of the distortion, fine, but it won't be an accurate reproduction of the signal.
GM
Damping is not universally good you know. It also adds its own colorations to the sound, everything does. More importantly, not all stand mounted speakers are designed with a heavy stand in mind.
My response is based on (I assume) his desire to maximize the benefits of high mass stands.If you mean it adds coloration by removing them, then I agree, but 'coloration' is harmonic distortion added by external sources such as the box resonances. Horns are excellent examples of this.
I don't keep up with consumer speakers, so if his are 'voiced' for a specific mounting/positioning, then I assume it's in the manufacturer's literature and should be followed IMO. Otherwise, I stand by my recommendation.
GM
Thanks
Sorry, forgot to mention that in the above question.
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