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Are there any sat/sub systems that are great for music only listening ? I listen to a bunch of jazz,big orchestral arrangements,organ . I'm not into the home theater thing . A lot of them are just boom boxes . I'm looking for a three piece system that will provide a solid low end foundation to the music I listen to , especially organ . I recently looked at some of the stuff at Best Buy and was not real impressed with their musical performance . If anyone has heard a great sat/sub system that sounds great with music please post . Thanks
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If you can find only the satellites then you need to find a good SEALED box subwoofer. The whole Modulus system sounds very good.
I'd recommend finding a nice pair of stereo speakers you like and then enhancing them with a sub instead of going with a package deal. Especially since you like concert organ (I assume) which goes super deep.
I'd look for a sub where you can adjust the volume, crossover, and phase.
My recent experience has been with JL Audio subs. I really like them. I started with a Fathom f113 sub...but soon learned that due to the size of my room I needed even more "ooommmpfff". So I ended up with a Gotham g213 sub. Both are incredible subs and would compliment any system in my opinion.
Two systems that come to my mind would be the Revel Gem2 w/Revel subs. Or the kissing cousin JBL system, the PT800/PS1400. I use the PT800s with a pair of SUB1500s. Those JBL Pro built drivers were designed by Revel for the Sub15, about 10 years ago.
I have the PT800s mounted to the subs t give a full range system. Not as good as a pair of Revel Salon2, but damn close.
Living in The Land of the Sun
Hi there,It would be much easier to help if we knew how much you can spend and what size constraints you might have. For example, buying an inexpensive 'set it and forget' system with very small satellites will yield you VERY different results from something that costs more and uses more full-range (typically stand-mounted) satellites. All things being equal, the former is generally inferior to the latter.
That said, my sense is that you are leaning toward a smaller, more 'set it and forget it' (but not necessarily inexpensive) system. If I were going that route I'd look for somthing like the Gallo A'Diva Ti (or perhaps the KEF eggs) and a sub. With careful shopping I think this combo could be had for around $600 give or take. I have heard and owned such systems and I think they are great all arounders, particularly if you don't want to fuss with things too much. Plus you always have the option down the road to replace one or more parts of the system or add an EQ to the sub which really helps you deal with room-related bass issues and integration with the satellites while leaving the signal to the satellites untouched.
Anything less than my suggestion above and you risk not being happy with the result. Very small inexpensive sub/sat systems from big box stores are generally, in my experience, not suitable for anyone that cares at all about decent sound. I don't believe for a minute that one has to spend a fortune but I do think there is a level below which you will be wasting your money - again, if you care at all about decent sound.
Hope this is helpful. Let us know if you have more questions.
Joe
Edits: 11/05/10
Not an off the shelf system and he had to sweat and muck about to put it together but it is a sublime sounding set up.
J.B.
I would avoid most sub/sat combinations as the sats can't reach down far enough inot the bass thus leaving a gap in the frequency coverage. This forces teh sub to play at its higher frequency range which makes it localizeable (if that's a word) . You can tell that the upper bass is coming from the sub.
What I would do is look for two bookshelves and a sub. Most bookshelves can achieve 80Hz as a minimum in bass if not lower which helps one blend the sub in seamlessly.
PSB makes some great bookshelves starting at their Image series and moving on up to their flagship Synchrony series.
Why not Maggies(MMG) and a Sub? There are inmates who are very happy with this combination.Wonder what amp you have.And budget?
Cheers
Bill
These are no longer available but may be aquired on the used market but the Fried Beta Signature monitors and the Fried Subwoofer was one of the most neutral and musical Sat/Sub combos I've owned and can be had for a song.
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I had a listen (not very extensive) to those Anthony Gallo aluminum spheres hooked to the Gallo sub, I was really blown away as usually this type of set up is not really what I would expect to be any good. Really HIFI (whatever that means) sounding and really nice to look at so if that is important than this is a big plus...
Give em a listen if you get a chance.
(I am in no way connected to Gallo stuff, i live in Croatia for Gods sake! LOL!)
Good luck.
v.i.
Million miles from home.
I recently completed a 2 month extended audition of the Stradas and TR3 subs. Outstanding! No "sweet spot" for this system as the dispersion is room wide. The subs are reference-caliber.
Happy listening.
Regards,
JerryS
The sub blended seamlessly with the mains in a music-only demonstration.
It was a few years ago, and I haven't heard them since.
Tell us that - and folks can get real specific... Just to throw out an idea for less than $800, I use NHT SB-1's and the matching NHT SW-10 sub for my HT. For a starter two channel loudspeaker system, this setup would be decent.
These are quite popular and they are sealed, including the sub!
Saw them at Guitar Center for 169.00 and HAD to get them. Liked them so much I almost bought some of the better systems. The Blue Sky products are top notch.
George
I suspect that what you mean by a Sat/sub system is some sort of package. I think many sub/sat packages are not terribly high quality.
This is not the same as a speaker manufacturer suggesting certain combinations of their products. There is no particular sonic reason to get the sats and subs from the same manufacturer, though you may get a deal doing so, or to replace a satisfactory sub just because you change main speakers.
There are a fair number of good monitor speakers. We like our Paradigm Signature S2 monitors with their older 15" PW-2500 sub, but PSB, Energy, Kef, B & W, Totem, Dynaudio, and many others make good small speakers. You can get a sub from most of them, but a good sub from some other manufacturers will do fine.
If I wanted an even bigger sub, I confess I would be tempted to get another Paradigm sub, but I would also consider Hsu or SVS, among others.
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"A fool and his money are soon parted." --- Thomas Tusser
If you can find an Xd 2.2 system, I think you would be quite pleased. They pop up on Audiogon occasionally and are a real bargain.
Have the active series Quads, currently using the 12L Active, and a Quad Lite Sub. The finish matches perfectly, and the sound is way beyond the price point.
Paid less than 1500.00 delivered. Sounds like a 4,000.00 system, and looks like a 10,000.00 system. I like the cherry better than the rosewood, birdseye maple, or the piano lacquer. But all are nice.
George
I have a pair of Energy RC-10s along with an Aperion Bravus 8D sub. My listening room is 12' x 12' with a cathedral ceiling. I find that the sub integrates very well with the mains with no bloat or overhang. Overall I am quite pleased with the sound I am getting.
I have Totem Model 1 Sigs and occasionaly run them with a REL q150e and the combo is stunning! The Totems are pretty close to being full range on their own (response down to about 40HZ) and in the right system & room, can sound downright large. They are also a top notch transducer and make listening to music alot of FUN!
Running a sub like the REL (no x-over inline with the Totems) at the lowest possible x-over settings makes the sub easier to integrate and it draws less attention to itself. Totem also makes some great (quick) subs.
I assume you are going with the sub/sat combo because of space limitations, so if you are using small sats, I would go with a small sub (or two) so that they are equally fast. Another thing to keep in mind is that a remote control sub would probably make it much easier to set up and tweak...I wish I had one. ;)
Have fun!
Chris
For orchestral music speakers also need to move air and lots of it is not necessarely handled by subs, thus a decent size midtange unit is required.
Just 2 weeks ago I demo-ed PMC speakers FB1i with a 15" Velodyne sub. The speakers are deceptively small looking, but don't let the size fool you.
Anyway it sounded quite pleasant and may be the speaker combo for you. He said he installed this system in a home in a ritzy neighborhood. They laughed in disbelief from the big quality sound from this deceptive looking speaker sub combo.
I ran PMC DB1i's with a Martin Logan sub and it was an amazing system.
"Lock up when you're done and don't touch the piano."
-Greg House
For high quality sound, I find it takes two subs, located with the LR mains. I have never been able to integrate a single sub to my satisfaction for true HiFi use. PE has some decent subs that can sound very good if integrated properly. Cross them over at 70 or lower. I like the Reference Series the best. Here is a kit, or buy the drivers and build your own. They are sealed boxes, which seem to have better fidelity than vented.
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