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RE: It's quite normal and "par for the course" at AA

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In Reply to: RE: It's quite normal and "par for the course" at AA posted by Toddd on February 01, 2008 at 18:48:33

I have VSM-MX's in a 13x15 room and they are sublime. I too have a Supratek preamp. My amp is a Joule Electra VZN-80 Musicwood version. Before settling on the Merlins, I tried Quad ESL-988's, Apogee Stages, Magnepan III's, and Silverline Sonatinas. The Merlins combine the legendary midrange of the Quads with the wonderful highs of the Magnepans and Apogees, with better bass than any of these speakers. I for one am that glad Bobby keeps refining this gem of a product, and I look forward to upgrading to the lead free version.

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RE: It's quite normal and "par for the course" at AA - rbwalt@verizon.net 11:29:27 02/03/08 (0)
yes get the MX's upgraded. you think they are good now wait till you hear them and the super bam together. then you will understand what i was trying to say about them.please note that bob's ears and mine hear nearly the same things when it comes to listening.

rob walters.
How are yours setup? - Toddd 07:01:27 02/02/08 (2)
Hi Guru,

Very good to hear a positive outcome in a similar sized room!

Do you have them setup along the 15' wall or the 13' wall? How do you have them setup in the room? (distance to wall behind speakers, distance to side walls)

It seems a lot of Merlin users are using Joule amps. I have a Response Audio modified Jolida 302B I could try in addition to my CJ SS amp, but I don't think the 50WPC EL34 will be enough to handle the bass, I've found EL34s to be a bit floppy in the bass, but I love them with smaller monitors.
- RE: How are yours setup? - The Groovy Guru 10:20:40 02/02/08 (0)
  Hi Toddd,
  
  I have them centered on the short wall, 6'8" from tweeter to tweeter. That leaves about 3 feet or so from the side walls. After experimenting, I decided to put them a foot and a half from the back wall (which works well because the speakers are front ported), and 9' from my listening position. I have bass traps in the back corners, as without them I was getting a little bit of boominess (I was getting this from the Quads too, so the boominess is probably attributed more to my room than the speakers). With this setup, the speakers do the disappearing act with great imaging and soundstaging, with solid, tight bass.
  
  I had a couple of EL34 amps prior to the Joule amp. One, a Cary V12R, had no issues with bass, IMO. The other, a Dynaco ST-70, was mushy. Both amps imparted a pleasing, warm sound. The Joule is more revealing while maintaining a warm sound, albeit less warm than what is offered by the EL34's.
  
  Have fun with your Merlins!
- toddd... - Bobby Palkovic 08:20:07 02/02/08 (0)
  i would try the tube amp because the vsm mxe/sbam has bandpass limiting in the bass so the amp will have an easier time of it and 50 watts is plenty. call me for the description of the benefits in this.
  i did the stereophile show in nyc with a 30 watt tube amp and those comments are all on the main page of my website.
  have fun.
  best, b

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