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In Reply to: RE: Bully eBay buyer--or am I crazy? posted by D Harvey on June 29, 2016 at 09:03:24
in the condition described in the ad. This only makes sense, since the buyer cannot pack the item, only the seller can, and the seller dictates the shipping carrier, insurance, and cost of shipping. Additionally, in the event of an insurance claim the carrier will pay the sender of the package, and that is the seller.
Ebay, Audiogon and US Audiomart are pretty consistent that these are the rules of the road. My suggestion is to require insurance over a certain dollar amount or don't use the above sites if the rules seem unfair to you. Any internet transaction can leave one open to less than savory individuals, again though, if the exposure seems too much it may be best to demur.
I was told I wouldn't be debited until tracking showed I got the item back. Well, yesterday I was debited, and I haven't received anything back from the "buyer" at all. I'll update if things change, but as of right now this transaction is looking like a total loss and I expect no help whatsoever from eBay. It was the most valuable item from the whole collection that I was working with.
I think my long and honorable track record proves I'm a reasonable seller. This incident, to me, represents an unacceptable loss of control over my own destiny as a seller and opens the door wide to bare-faced fraud that eBay will actually help facilitate. Even if I was to insure over a certain $ amount, cheaper records will be similarly vulnerable--nobody (including me) is going to pay to insure a $10 record. There simply are no sufficient safeguards for sellers here against unscrupulous individuals. It wasn't always like this. I have ended all my listings and will be pursuing other avenues for selling what I have left. It was a good run while it lasted. God forbid I have to try to make a living this way ever again. I don't think it can be considered viable anymore.
GEMM has been gone for some time.
I love it when people say "they are through with Ebay" and say things like "I'll never do business there again".
Oh if I only had a nickel everytime I heard that.
Come on bro. Get real. You (and everyone else) isn't going anywhere. Once the sting of this transaction fades, you'll be right back. You know it. I know it. Everyone knows it.
The reason is simple. At some point, you're going to want to buy or sell again. Where you gonna turn to?
Craigslist? AudiogoN? Right here at AA?
Get serious. Pick any ten other sites out there. Put together, they can't even match up to 10% of Ebays size, scope, and selection. I mean sure, you can try your luck at those places. If you don't mind waiting six months and selling for one-tenth of what you can get on Ebay.
Sellers want to go to where the buyers are. Buyers want to go to where the sellers are. And Ebay has both by the short hairs and neither is gonna do anything to extricate themselves.
So while I feel your pain and understand your frustration, you aren't fooling anyone when you say you're done with them.
You'll be back.
After all, if everyone who made that promise actually made good on it, there actually would be a viable alternative to buy and sell.
And I'll be damned if I can find such a venue.
See you on the Bay.
I still have hundreds of records left from this collection. I will find a buyer some other way in due time. I used to rely on eBay for paying my bills. I don't anymore and see no trouble at all with not selling there in the future. I've sold a few other items from around the house since this incident on Craigslist. Not really fun either, but at least there I control my own destiny without having to document the hell out of every move I make. Similarly, I have bought things in the intervening months that I might have got on eBay in the past. Amazon works just fine as do a number of other sites. No big deal, really. I went the first several decades of my life without ever using eBay, I'm confident I can do the same for the final few decades.
I have no idea if they look out for sellers.
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