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With all due respect, I don't care how much personal knowledge you have of this loser. Robert might be the sweetest guy in the world face-to-face. However, he ripped off a bunch of people on ebay, AA, and vendors (like Kevin Deal). Read the threads in my link. That alone (nevermind his crazy rantings directed at me) should be enough to label Robert Hutton as a crazy, unethical douchebag.
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Let's be clear on this, Len. I never ripped you off at all, and Ed Sawyer is a guy with a serious mental imbalance. He seems to want to pursue his mad rantings everywhere he can, despite having a number of posts along those lines deleted and carrying on for almost 5 years - this guy needs help. Ed, by the way, goes to great lengths to hide his location and identity. I don't. Ed has had quite a few problems on Audiogon over the years - so he's not exactly a stand up guy.
To set the record straight, I have never ripped off Kevin Deal. That is a pure lie, and I challenge you to support that with a fact - or be a man and retract. I don't even know this JNS dude, he seems like just another tube dealer who wants to jump in to enhance his selling reputation.
As to the really big minds trying to claim I "look like a woman" or 'dye my hair green' - that just shows how juvenile some people on this board are.
Audio Asylum is a dead place for dead brains. It died long ago. It's now only populated by a small number of losers and wanabees and really has little of value anymore. Too bad.
Even Bored member Stepean, who calims expertise in "human systems coaching and consulting", jumps in without any first hand knowledge of anything to say "in light of his actions" (sheesh, I hope he never coaches any HR department I'm involved with - you VERIFY after a thorough investigation first, bud, not draw conclusions from a bunch of heresay)- purported actions that he has no knowledge or evidence of. That is what you expect from a Bored member, on what claim to be an influential social media site - with regards to a private individual's reputation? very responsible, Steve.
Look, Sawyer is flat out a nutjob. Even if he was ripped off (he claims he sent me a bunch of tubes, unsolicited, which never appeared on my doorstep, and them attempted to extract from me a horrendously excessive price - an extortionist, at best)a sane person would have chalked it up and moved on long ago - whatever it was with Sawyer, he has been going on for what - 5 or 6 YEARS about this now - jumping in everywhere he can, vitually stalking me, posting my home address and phone online encouraging fellow nutcases to cause me and my family harm - continuing to make his unsubstantiated claims (Sawyer has never, in the hundreds of posts he has made about me, ever provided one shred of evidence of a transgression).
Sawsyer is, sadly, a complete psycopath. Yes, Ed - let me say it here very clearly, so you can take it in front of a judge if you care to - ED Sawyer is a NUTJOB. The rest, like JNS, don't even know me or have any dealings with me.
By the way, Sawyer claims I have been "booted from AA multiple times". Wrong-o, kiddo. I was booted ONCE. And that was solely due to a defamatory statement made about me by Greg Maltz, the infamous "jazzinmate" and eventually I told Rod that I would, indeed, sue AA if it were not removed. Rod, courageous and righteous type that he is, left Maltz' comments up but followed the published AA rules by banning me permanently. Not terribly strong sense of right and wrong displayed there - I guess Rod is the type that supports punishing the rape victim for complaing about being raped. But fair enough, the rules are known.
And I don't raelly care, around that time, I had newborn twins, moved to a bigger house, changed careeers and all in all had my hands completely full and of necessity gave up the whole thing, which was becoming boring anyways.
Anyways, thems the facts. Now fire away. I won't be looking for whatever anyways.
One must be a registered member to post here. Hence, the "sockpuppet" as Sawyer calls it.
What a total tool he is. Scumbag of the first order. Avoid at all costs! Even his so-called 'career' as some sort of social-media internet guru is bunk and bullshit. Why anyone would give him the time of day is beyond me.
The tall, bottom-getter sylvania 6SN7 GTs were generally known as "Tall boys". the whole 'badboy' misnomer was a lame play on that term, indeed perpetuated by hutton. Unfortunately now it seems to have stuck.
He looks like he'd make a good transvestite...he kind of looks like a woman in the face..hee hee hee
Negative thought shield?
J.B.
In light of his actions, you gotta' love his words on that clip:
"Executives need to understand that people are talking to each other online, connecting with each other online, and that reputation ... image ... value ... are being established by people online today."
"They need to understand that [online] world is different from the non-virtual world and how to navigate that world."
"Events that impact reputation can happen in the space of hours, or even minutes."
Hmmmmm ...
There is a crack in everything, that's how the light gets in.
—Leonard Cohen
He dyes his hair? He surely has self esteem issues and I don't know him from Adam.
The Mind has No Firewall~ U.S. Army War College.
I can tell you as fact that he bought tubes from Kevin Deal (not the opther way around) and Kevin treated him unethically, and lied.
What happened with Deal is that R.H. bought some tubes from him and explicitly told him to show a customs value as $10, to avoid duties and taxes. Deal ignored that and shipped some pricey tubes declaring full value, and that incurred a whack of customs and duties. No problem if Deal had said up front "I don't do that, if you want them, it's declaring full value' but he just ignored the customer, took the sale, and never told the customer or gave him the choice of declining the purchase. Unethical. Dishonest. And I can also tell you he has never had any contact with or knowledge of "JNS".
A lot of bullshit goes around online. He had a pair of spaekaers up on Audiogon, and I recall hiom telling me that some total douche wanted to buy them, and called him on a Thursday begging him to drive than across the border and meet up with him (the Agon listing said local pickup only) and the next day, as he was getting ready to take off on a business trip to NYC, begged him to actually take the speakers with him on the plane and check them into cargo! Then this loser goes omn some internet site to slag him for not wanting to do that. The guy is actually a very senior marketing executive and simply dropped online chat becuase he didn't have time with newborn kids and a demanding business schedule. He never was a tube dealer, just a hobbyist, and got tired of the losers he was dealing with.
He pretty much, along with Paul Knutson, wrote the book on 6SN7's in the 90's, and these wanabees don't even know what he's forgotten.
He's local and he does pop up from time to time now that his kids are older.
Hutton, you lying scammer. You've been banned here repeatedly. Now you're back and posting a lot apparently, under yet ANOTHER moniker.Astralnavigator = Robert Hutton. Clear as day. (Thanks to who pointed this out to me, I've notified the moderators so we'll see Astralnavigator disappear soon I think.).
For the record, here's the details:
Check the IP address of Astralnavigator's page on AA:
http://cgi.audioasylum.com/cgi/mail.mpl?user_ID=52819
Now look up that IP at Arin:Search ARIN WHOIS for: 174.90.33.226
Bell Canada BELLCANADA-19 (NET-174-88-0-0-1)
174.88.0.0 - 174.95.255.255
Pollara POL20100225-CA (NET-174-90-33-224-1)
174.90.33.224 - 174.90.33.255It's well known that Pollara is where Hutton works (he threatened to sue AA multiple times, one time was when he was denying this is where he worked... threads here on AA were showing up in google which scared him)
Pollara.com - go to "about" - he's listed there of course.
Now check his blog:
http://robertmusic.blogspot.com/2010/03/about-buying-vintage-japanese-vinyl.html
Where he clearly mentions posting on AA, and where on his blog he's identified himself as hutton
Here's the relevant AA post:
http://db.audioasylum.com/cgi/m.mpl?forum=vinyl&n=895552
I think that's a pretty open and shut case.
Here's what will likely happen now: hutton will deny the above. Then he'll threaten Rod and AA. Rod, being a nice guy and not wanting to take any of hutton's grief will push back but when push comes to shove, he doesn't want the hassle, so this thread will disappear.
Rod, apologies in advance for stirring up this (again!) but I can't stand hutton being here, masquerading as someone else, and sock-puppet defending himself, even after he's been booted from here multiple times.
-Ed Sawyer
If true (and it certainly looks like it), that is f'ing comedy gold.
He ripped me off. He ripped Ed Sawyer off. He ripped off a lot of his buyers in ebay according to his feedbacks. He ripped off a lot of other people in Audiogon. At best, you're defending a thief. I don't care how much information he provided on 6SN7s (the quality of some of this information is open to debate). Nothing will change the fact that he's a proven con artist and a wackjob.
As for avoiding duties and taxes, that is illegal and unethical.
Perhaps.
Doesnt it bother you that he tried to avoid duties. I love the way you and some of your countrymen try to lecture us on the Water Cooler about the humanity of your healthcare system only to give someone a pass on bilking the system. Pretty much a validation of some of our main concerns about this system and these programs it appears. I agree that if Deal didnt comply to this request he should have notified Hutton. Of course he doesnt know me.....I dont go around introducing myself as JNS. I may have sold him some tubes some time back and if I did I had no problems.
Man is this paragraph lame. Perhaps the speaker story is true. But I will tell you this. If 2 out of 10 say you are a crook then perhaps this can be dismissed. When you get almost universal agreement about a seller being a crook and also within a relatively short and isolated period of time then you should take notice to what the online "losers" say.
So what? This gives him the right to lie, cheat and steal! Is his epitath to be: "pretty much wrote the book on 6SN7s in the 90s". I think he will be remembered for other not so flattering things. I will just have to take your word that the rest of us wannabes dont have a clue.
He is indeed fortunate to have a defender like you. As far as I'm concerned, after your mountain of evidence, this case is closed.
"I may have sold him some tubes some time back and if I did I had no problems."
Curious. You have may or may not have sold him something, yet jump into a thread calling someone a crook and a liar. You also say you had no problems. That is hardly universal condemnation!
Can you read? I jump into a thread calling someone a crook and a liar because I know people that he has ripped off. I also know some of the people in this group that are not quick to condemn without first hand experience.
I guess your conversation with Hutton went something like this:
Anavigator: "Robert are you a thief, liar and crook"?
Hutton: "No".
Anavtigator: "OK".
As Len says your attempts to defend this knob are making you look really bad. Doesnt it seem strange to you that Hutton was a very signifcant contributor on this forum and then he just drops off the face of the earth after news of all his midemeanors surface?
n/t
WHATS N/T MEEN?
:)
Come on. Practice a little intellectual honesty and read the thread I linked and check out his ebay feedbacks. Do a search in AA. He's ripped off A LOT of people. The more you defend this crook, the worse you look. Just because you have known him in real life is not a good reason to continually defend him. Just because Robert posted useful information about tubes does not absolve him of his crimes. Your justifications are appalling to me.
dont you think avoiding taxes is unethical ?? the guy who asked to avoid the taxes is the unethical one :) john
Whether or not avoiding duties is unethical, when a buyer request it, the seller should either tell him 'I can't do that' and give the buyer the option to not buy, or just not take the order. But just to ship without telling the customer is to me unethical.
I agree. At least half of my Canadian clients ask me to falsify values to avoid duties and taxes. I dont comply with this request.
I guess I cant say that he is crazy, but he is without question a thief and a liar. I have talked to a few of his "victims".
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