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In Reply to: RE: Im going to report this to the CPSC! posted by Garg0yle on September 21, 2015 at 20:29:47
Moral
In whose eyes - not mine for sure.
It does not claim UL certification.
It's obvious that it will not stand abuse.
Somebody MIGHT get hurt is a red herring.
People get hurt stepping off the sidewalk.
The same reason is used to get swings, kickball,
monkey bars, jungle gyms etc out of playgrounds.
It is a very stupid argument in a "FREE" society.
Legal
Again do you want the government involved in deciding
what can and cannot be sold in the audio realm
because once you invite them in ...
They see No boundries !!!
They crush the whole business with regulations.
They love to make laws and even more laws.
I have seen it happen in many venues.
The whole section of business crushed by regulation.
GOVERNMENT INVOLVEMENT = POLICE STATE
Then let lawyers involved in this - Bad Idea.
Nowhere is it written that the government has the power
to protect people from bad decisions.
You can warn them but the choice is theirs.
In a free society that is.
DanL
Follow Ups:
No, we are not trying to outlaw monkey bars in playgrounds.
But what's wrong with imposing minimum standards of weld quality or steel grades?
Is the problem for you that the inexperienced, unlicensed hacks can't participate in the industry?
They are selling things that people want.
You don't want it fine.
But to make sure that others can't ...
Once you get the gov't involved then
they can and will destroy the industry.
Feet under the component makes
the whole stereo unstable.
Cable elevators cause a tripping hazard.
Tubes must have cages or
someone might burn themselves.
You can easily see where this can go.
You want BIG BROTHER in this ???
Think a little before you do this.
You may say that is not what you want
but it is a very slippery slope.
DanL
You think it's ok for some firm to sell playground equipment with shoddy welds or inferior steel where a child falls and seriously injured?We should not have product safety standards?
P.S. I would be honored to destroy the snake oil audio accessories industry. About time these people make an honest living.
Edits: 09/21/15
That isn't what happened...
ALL swings and ALL jungle gyms were banned.
Workmanship was never considered.
Workmanship hasn't been mentioned
about Mapleshade just materials used.
Yours vs Someone Else's Products
Who gets to decide that???
Who gets to draw the line???
The gov't will ban them all
because they can.
Someone somewhere will get offended.
Again who buys Mapleshade products ???
Audiophiles and wannabes not general public
and not some 10yr old kid or grandma.
So they are going to be
somewhat smart about it's use.
and poof another item on that list.
> > I would be honored to destroy
the snake oil audio accessories industry.
Now we are getting to the real point ...
This is something that YOU are going to do
to make YOU feel better and more in control.
YOU are going to wipe out the snake oil industry.
YOU are going on your soapbox and decry
the charlatans and beguilers as criminals.
YOU are going to bring fairness to the masses.
This is about YOU.
DanL
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I see your point Dan, I'm growing tired of all the legislation and laws getting shoved down our throat. This is a political agenda based on kickbacks and "earmarks" (or whatever fancy name you want to use). It is also a machine that funds litigation, I don't think our founding fathers had this in mind....
^ +1
Like I said, there are plenty of snake oil audiophile products out there. And for the most part they do no harm. Even many of the AC power products while not UL or equivalent listed, they do appear safe based on casual observation and the source of the raw components.
However once that line is crossed, it is more than fair game for anyone to suggest an investigation by authorities. It's their decision to act or ignore, not mine.
You know damn well if those Mapleshade power products would ever be subjected to safety inspection they would fail miserably.
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