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In Reply to: know emotion in audio posted by njjohn on September 06, 2004 at 09:04:22:
John,You are taking my comments from the wrong perspective. I have heard those amps and they do sound good. I don't know why. More than likely there is some please distortion going on. Not that there is anything wrong with that. Like my speakers, should not sound good on paper but they do in reality. The point of the discussion is that there are lots of things that sound good, and no "magic bullet". 6SN7s are just one of a hundred tubes that sound good and Fi Primer versus SRPP falls in the same bucket. Now, if you want to narrow something down so that yu know what YOU like then some of these proclamations makes sense. None of them are universal. Even the argument of AC versus DC has been debated and though I like AC, I am sure people who have much more experience than I do can devise a DC heater supply that is equal to or exceeds some AC circuits.
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George, I'm not intending to take you wrong.I'm not necessarily reacting to you. Maybe I'm reacting to the high end arena. I really like alot of the high-end stuff, but alot of the sound doesn't necessarily interest me anymore. In general, I appreciate some of it, but on average, I'm not interested anymore. I have an otl here that is really distortion free but it is lacking in some important way. So are many of the p-p amps that I've heard. And you know how sets vary greatly.
You know the big hoopla at first over those single driver speakers from a scandanavian country I believe it was and how people then had different feelings about them it seems. It's an audio jungle out there.
My tastes have really gone down this set/webster path.
From my perspective, this is your backyard and I don't believe you really know what is in it. We are all like that to some extent. Something has to attract us in a particular direction at the right time.
You heard what happened to be in John's house at the time of your visit. Lots of stuff comes and goes out of his house, some of it optimized better than others. He experiments alot. Some of it might have had websters, some of it not. Not easy necessarily to tell the difference right away.
We are all pretty different too, and so we have different tastes. And we all have prejudices. You could come here and certainly not like what you hear. And even after intense study and interest in something, a certain aspect can be lost to a person and the whole thing is lost.
So there is an audio jungle out there. Subjectivity of course, consensus, norms, established paths, economics, habits, politics, etc. etc.
I know what I like and I have a certain vigilance and focus about it.
I have been off the so-called "audiophile path" for about three years. One of John's amps had websters in it and if I recall correctly, I did like that one best. Don't know if it were the opts or the circuit. They were all different tube types. You could hear the differences from amp to amp. Which is the single driver scandanavia speaker? I don't remember it. You do know what YOU like and that is important to YOU and at the end that is all that really matters.
You may be one of the more fortunate souls that never jumped on the "audiophile" path. Count your blessings. Like I said, I liked what I heard out of John's amps. Could be for a variety of reasons that they sound good.
You got a map of the audio path because I sure as hell can't find it! :)
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