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Two rather different choices, don't you think?

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In Reply to: ASL Leyla 845 vs Orchid modified for 45s posted by Deon G on January 07, 2002 at 04:53:41:

I havn't heard the Orchid, modified or otherwise.
Since I'm not Thorsten, I won't lecture you on the sound of gear I've never heard.
I will give you a few personal observations, having lived with quite a few SETs for years.
As the power goes down there seems to be an increase in *immediacy*. 10s have it more than any other tube I've heard. OTOH, this comes at a price. Lower power gives less dynamics,and less bass(sometimes leaner sound).I'm not talking volume here. Your speakers don't need alot of power,now, but if you move into a bigger room, or aquire a taste for orchestral music, things may change. I started with 300Bs, then 2A3s, then 10s, now I have 845s.
Whats nice about the Leyla, is that it takes 7 6SN7s, so you can taylor it to whatever sound you prefer-lush, lean, forward, laid back etc..
Whats bad aout the Leyla, is that it takes 7 6SN7s- thats alot of NOS tubes, and they aren't cheap.
I will say, that with the exception of immediacy, the Leyla does just about everything as well or better than any SET I've heard. It might give up a pinch of warmth to 300B or 2A3 amps, but its just as smooth or smoother. Its very lush(with the right input/drivers) You don't need the power, but it isn't muscle bound either. Its rather suave sounding.
In the end, its your choice.
enjoy,
Jack

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Sage advice Jack. - Dave VH 21:49:03 01/07/02 (1)
You give very good and specific advice based on personal experience (and taste) in response to Deon's question, which is why it was directed at you. However, I (and apparently Deon and Kelly) found Thorsten's comments interesting. Although you loathe discussions about circuits and their affect on sound, some of us do.
I say, let all opinions be heard. I found both the recanting of your experiences, as well as Thorsten's thoughts on the subject, to be interesting, and I would enjoy threads like this even more if you and he could avoid sniping at each other. I'm asking both of you to help keep the peace.
Dave van Harn
- It show at CES now - Joseph Lau 05:33:07 01/09/02 (0)
  Hi ! How are you ? I'm in Las Vegas Tuscany Hotel now. Leyla is hook up and show at Room H115 now. Leyla use only 6SN7 in signal only. the other is for power supply. It is not importance as tube for amplication.
  Also a new series of Headphone products show now.
  escpeically a Head/Line amps
  Function :
  1 . 4 Input
  2. 2 line output , 1 from first SRPP stage , 1 from Output transformer.
  Headphone section
  SRPP direct coupling to 2A3 (2A3 work in 22ma to save life of tube due to Headphone amps no need High power).
  2 Output Jack - 1 for OTL out , 1 for transformers out ! It is the big brother of MG-Head
  But it S/N Ratio is not as good as indirect head power. It have slight Buzz when play with no music but can't heard when have music.
  It have all charateritic of SE direct Heat ! Is it sligh buzz is acceptable ? It is the cost of direct heat sweet sound !
PS - Jack G 13:54:17 01/07/02 (1)
I wouldn't worry too much about transparency of the integrated amps-it couldn't be much worse than signal going from a preamp, through connections, then cable, then more connections, then an amp.
enjoy,
Jack
- Thanks very much for the info! <nt> - Deon G 14:09:45 01/07/02 (0)

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