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In Reply to: RE: Mmm, Debbie posted by 1973shovel on May 11, 2017 at 10:59:23
Wore that album out, many moons ago. One of the better albums of the 1980s.
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thought it was Macy's Punk - which it was - but PARALLEL LINES was a very good record.
Giving Jack Lee some notoriety was a good move for both.
After that, I was done with them.
I was hearing Heart Of Glass on the radio back then, of course, but the first LP I bought for some reason was Eat To The Beat, which I still love.
Too bad I never watched MTV. I see now (via youtube) some of what I was missing out on, hot rock-star babe wise.
This is the one that did it for me...Heart Of Glass. The way she moves her mouth, the eyes shifting to the side, or up toward the ceiling. I'm getting to be an old man, and I'm still a sucker for a pretty lady.
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I think it was around 1980 that MACY'S had "punk" outfits on mannequins in the windows in NYC. The term became a common dismissal of yet another "youth movement" being appropriated by the stores.
Cut to the scene in HARD DAY'S NIGHT when Harrison is being interrogated by the clothing buyer of some unknown store thinking he knows what his customer's will want next. Flummoxed by Harrison's disinterest of his new styles he realizes he needs to change his plans.
Does make you wonder if the chicken/egg conundrum is at work?
Deborah Harry has maintained much of her beauty.
Someone posted a concert performance here a few months ago. Never heard them live. I was surprised that she really could perform. When someone LOOKS LIKE THAT you figure they are "punching" in the vocals in the studio and hoping the noise of the band will drown out the flubs in concerts. Instead this was recorded in such a way that she was naked in the mix, no chance for screw-ups being glossed over. I was impressed and gratified that she was real.
I wasn't aware of Macy's selling trés chic punk, but it doesn't surprise me. There's always someone who wants to be first regarding trends, especially when there's money to be made. Your Harrison analogy was a good one.
You made me recall the first time I saw punks in the flesh, probably late 1970s or early 1980s. My now ex-wife and I were in Toronto for a weekend, walking down Yonge street and saw a group of four or five punks. I remember her being rather put out about them "Stealing the biker look and presenting it as a sanitized fashion statement". Not that any of the guys I rode with had purple spiked Mohawks, but I saw her point.
You're right about Deborah Harry having talent. No auto-tune (not that they had it back then) necessary there, for her, or the rest of the band.
Speaking of things to admire, or be disgusted by, depending on your point of view, was Blondie's variety in their style of music. They were part of the Punk scene, but the punks saw them as sellouts when they started doing dance music. Were they true rebels who pursued their art, or simply chasing a buck and capitalizing on the disco mirror ball craze?
That reminds me of reading that John Lennon was conflicted when Brian Epstein wanted to get "his boys" out of jeans, and leather jackets, and into matching suits. Supposedly Lennon initially resisted it. But he badly wanted to be rich and famous, so he caved, and said he'd wear balloons on stage if it brought him success.
That it was a "teen magazine" guy not a buyer for a store, but similar enough.
No question Lennon wanted to be rich. He did quite well for himself. I remember reading how Ms. Ono was very good at cattle futures. Always a joy to hear how the publicly anti-capitalists are actually the most fervent social climbers of all. Nothing new ...
I can't remember who, but a 19th century French composer was asked why he more often than not chose business men to talk with during intermissions and he replied that they wanted to talk about music. The musicians only wanted to talk abut business.
Oy, ve ...
Yeah, I remember that too. I was in a drugstore during Lennon's five year, self-imposed exile, and saw on the rack, a magazine cover (Esquire, perhaps?) with something about Yoko selling a cow (yes, just one) for a cool quarter-million dollars. The marketing worked, because I bought the magazine to see what they were both up to.
Lennon even refers to it in his song Dear Yoko , on Double Fantasy. During the fade-out, he says, "When you come over next time, don't sell a cow, spend some time with me and Sean. Get in the water!"
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