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In Reply to: Put up or shut up!. posted by Pat D on December 6, 2006 at 15:53:56:
Pat,No matter what you say after this I'll NOT respond because your back to your dirty little tricks.
I NEVER said you claimed that changing to the Paradigm Signature S2 was an upgrade! Learn to read Pat! What I specifically said word-for-word was: 3) Your trading Quads ESL-63 for Paradigms Signature S2 mini-monitors isn't what I'd Did you see that Pat? I used the word I'd, thus it's my opinion, I didn't say what you'd hence it's not something you said, a logical move or upgrade.
Now as I know you'd completely disagree with my opinion once again and we'll never come to an agreement, what's the purpose in a continued debate on the topic? There is none!
Yet you make up something I didn't say i.e. (You) sa(id) that changing to the Paradigm Signature S2 was an upgrade? And then you have the nerve to challenge me to show you where I said the statement you completely made up in Pat's audio fantasy land!! So now I DEFY you Pat to show where I said that was your opinion and not mine! As I have said and once again proved, you constantly make up things I've supposedly said that just aren't true. I'm trying to avoid calling you a liar again but you're getting pretty close to it with this new fantasy statement Pat.
Just like I've stated before in the link you provided, Pat this post you've just made has got to be another one of the most off-base, illogical responses I've ever seen on AA. Once again you 're attributing things to me I didn't say, mean or believe. I've never said that you stated changing to the Paradigm Signature S2 was an upgrade, that thought ONLY exists in your head and only in Pat's weird audio world. What I said was: trading Quads ESL-63 for Paradigms Signature S2 mini-monitors isn't what I'd call a logical move or upgrade.
Just go on and continue to play your childish games Pat. Continue to feel like you know the truth, but rest assured you don't. I looked at your audio system to get an indication of what you listen to and at least now I know why you CANNOT hear differences the differences I do. Because yes IMO your system isn't as capable as many others I've heard. I'm not claiming it's crap, it's just there's much better out there.
With that this discussion is over, no matter how many more fantasy comments you want to attribute to me that's aren't true, I'll not waste one more second discussing with a person who makes up at will comments I haven't said and then demands I show him proof of things I didn't say in the first place. Pat you need help, it obvious you are taking this way to personally and I don't wish to remain involved in this matter any longer...
Bye, Bye Pat. Thetubeguy1954
Follow Ups:
That's what it meant in context, you try to rip your own statements out of their context when challenged how silly they are. Are you admitting that you were making comments which were irrelevant to the discussion?And since you have no idea of the reasons for the change from electrostatics to forward radiating speakers, it is really silly of you to put forward an opinion as to whether it was a "logical" change. You have utterly no basis for it and seemingly cannot imagine why anyone would do so.
Your earlier remarks on a supposed upgrade of the Paradigm Signature S2 indicated you thought that I could have my speakers upgraded to a newer version for around $200. I've never known Paradigm to do that. You have absolutely no basis for this statement and as usual, you provided no link. I have simply pointed out that it was probably a little more complicated than changing the drivers and that there is no evidence that Paradigm is offering upgrades to the first model and that one would probably have to purchase the new model to get it You are imagining a difference in tone based on that. But you seem to regard almost anything that proves you wrong as a change in tone.BTW, have you heard the Quad ESL-63, or are you simply relying on its reputation?
TG54
"I looked at your audio system to get an indication of what you listen to and at least now I know why you CANNOT hear differences the differences I do. Because yes IMO your system isn't as capable as many others I've heard. I'm not claiming it's crap, it's just there's much better out there."There we go again, with two main fallacies this time. The first is the circumstantial ad hominem, to try to counter my audio philosophy by making remarks about the quality of my system. But, no matter how you cut it, it's a fallacious argument, and your continued iterations. Such remarks about me do nothing to prove you can hear what you claim you do.
Second, you personalize, which is probably the more vicious fallacy. I and some others have pointed out that apparently NO ONE has proved they can hear the differences between wires suitable for high fidelity use in normal applications. For example, Richard has been asking for such proof on the net since 1996, but so far it hasn't been forthcoming and of course, you have provided none, either, only a fatuous promise you would IF you did a controlled DBT. My dealer tried to use the same argument, that he's sure he *would* be able to hear the difference between interconnects and speaker wires in a DBT. Totally worthless statement as data! All that is required is to prove you or anyone can hear such differences, whether or not we can hear it or not.You try to personalize to me, and try to maintain I am trying to impose my limitations on everyone else--you're hardly the first to come up with such silliness and you won't be the last. But it is a misrepresentation and one which I believe is quite deliberate.
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