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In Reply to: Re: You just don't get it. The time for the technical discussion of this topic ended three and a half weeks ago posted by john curl on October 25, 2006 at 11:49:57:

why are you taking him seriously?
Here is a guy who thinks that THD is relevant ("When TOTAL harmonic distortion is measured in tenths and hundreths of one percent, it doesn't matter how it is spread out. I believe that they are all inaudible...,), AR-9s (however you wish to bastardize them) and a Dynaco power amp are state of the art today and that he invented DSP algorithms (remind you of the claims of a former Veep?) among other truly wonderful gems of "wisdom".
We should rejoice in this continuing source of levity. :)
rw

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Re: John, John - john curl 10:01:53 10/26/06 (0)
Don't worry, I am just taking a little 'heat' off of TubeGuy54, and having fun doing it.
"We should rejoice in this continuing source of levity." There ya go! nt - clarkjohnsen 09:00:42 10/26/06 (14)
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- I know I can, just by re-reading John Curl's "serious discussion" with May Belt about cables - Soundmind 14:25:54 10/26/06 (13)
  This thread was a barrel of laughs from the get-go with John Curl playing the part of George Burns and May Belt as Gracie Allen. The only problem I had was trying to figure out which one was the straight man. To recap, John asks for and gets May's explanation of why cables sound different. She starts out with the London cholera epidemic of the 1830s. I kid you not. It's right up there with Who's on first.
  You subjectivists have so much in common.
  BTW clark, have you tried watering your plants with fluoridated water to make your audio system sound better the way May suggested? How about freezing your 78 shellac records overnight? How about howling at the moon?
  - When all else fails, consult a gypsy fortune teller (Open in New Window)
  - No surprise here - E-Stat 05:43:43 10/27/06 (10)
    that you don't get it! There are numerous cases where the scientific community has made erroneous conclusions based upon unsupported assumptions. Like yours and THD. I guess this concept goes over your head.
    Here's another story with a good outcome. You can thank this doctor for inventing air conditioning for completely the wrong reason! I learned of him first on a BBC documentary called "Connections".
    More about bad air
    rw
    - You would be best off..... - Soundmind 06:11:01 10/27/06 (9)
      ...leaving science to scientists and comedy to comedians. You are clearly neither. Now when it comes to the comedy of audiotomfoolery (or should I say audiojohnfoolery) May Belt has few equals, not even you or John Curl.
      - Why certainly - E-Stat 06:31:04 10/27/06 (8)
        
        In Reply to: You would be best off..... posted by Soundmind on October 27, 2006 at 06:11:01:
        
        I have faith in quite a few audio engineers. Success for audio is a whole lot more complex than "no one complained" as you trumpet with your power jobs. You flip the switch, the power comes on. Really challenging.
        rw
        
        Re: Why certainly - Soundmind 06:48:35 10/27/06 (7)
        
        In Reply to: Why certainly posted by E-Stat on October 27, 2006 at 06:31:04:
        
        "You flip the switch, the power comes on. Really challenging."
        Why not try it...on a 1 megawatt data center. Don't kid yourself, you'd be lucky if they let you walk through the door.
        
        R-E-A-D---M-O-R-E---S-L-O-W-L-Y - E-Stat 06:59:23 10/27/06 (6)
        
        In Reply to: Re: Why certainly posted by Soundmind on October 27, 2006 at 06:48:35:
        
        Success for audio is a whole lot more complex than "no one complained"
        Success for audio is a whole lot more complex than "no one complained"
        Success for audio is a whole lot more complex than "no one complained"
        rw
        
        T-H-I-N-K---M-O-R-E---C-L-E-A-R-L-Y - Soundmind 07:12:42 10/27/06 (5)
        
        In Reply to: R-E-A-D---M-O-R-E---S-L-O-W-L-Y posted by E-Stat on October 27, 2006 at 06:59:23:
        
        Any idiot can design a speaker system or an amplifier. And that is exactly who often does. If it doesn't work right the first time, he does it again and again until he gets it right, prototype after prototype, model after model. To design a suitable power distribution system for a complicated application, you need decades of training....and you often only get one shot at a project so it had better be right the first time or you are finished in the business. Capiche?
        
        Still missing the point - E-Stat 07:52:56 10/27/06 (4)
        
        In Reply to: T-H-I-N-K---M-O-R-E---C-L-E-A-R-L-Y posted by Soundmind on October 27, 2006 at 07:12:42:
        
        Last try.
        There is a single criteria for the success of a power distribution system. You flip the switch and either (A) it works, or (B) it doesn't. You acknowledged that some time ago with this proud evaluation of your large project:
        "And eperience [sic] bore it out as no complaint was ever traced to a problem with this cable installation."
        Nobody complained. Great job! It sure seems you use that same criteria when it comes to audio. I can hear the music through both speakers. Job done!
        rw
        
        You're wrong as usual - Soundmind 08:36:01 10/27/06 (3)
        
        In Reply to: Still missing the point posted by E-Stat on October 27, 2006 at 07:52:56:
        
        Electrical power distribution design and installation failure can occur in many different modes including insidious failures as well as failures which don't manifest themselves for months or years. As is always the case you shoot your mouth off without knowing what you are talking about. How long were the defects unknown and undetected in both the system configuration and the fault protection and isolation scheme before a feeder failure in the midwest a few summers ago took out much of the midwest and northeast power grid? That's just one of countless examples. Recently I heard a report from a collegue that a company I worked at 11 years ago just had a massive power failure in their main data center because someone had installed a defective design for dual pathing and a component failure took out both the primary and redundant systems. Up to that time it worked just fine. So much for your theories. Stick to what you do know....whatever that is.
        
        Exactly - E-Stat 09:01:24 10/27/06 (2)
        
        In Reply to: You're wrong as usual posted by Soundmind on October 27, 2006 at 08:36:01:
        
        it went from (A) working to (B), not working.
        Qualitative measures completely elude your line of thinking.
        rw
        
        Re: Exactly - Soundmind 09:12:57 10/27/06 (1)
        
        In Reply to: Exactly posted by E-Stat on October 27, 2006 at 09:01:24:
        
        Sometimes it goes from working to sort of working to not working to back and forth among them. An intermittent electrical problem which manifests itself by degrees is among the most difficult to diagnose. Just when you think you've cured it, it comes back again. I just had one with my car. The dealer took several hours with his computer hooked up to it to find it and his time cost me $300. The part...$8. I think this is more than you can absorb. You'd better take your afternoon nap and rest your tired mind, this could be too mentally straining for you. :> )
        
        Gotcha. Have no idea as to the meaning of "qualitative" (nt) - E-Stat 09:24:23 10/27/06 (0)
        
        In Reply to: Re: Exactly posted by Soundmind on October 27, 2006 at 09:12:57:
        
        rw
  - Re: I know I can, just by re-reading John Curl's "serious discussion" with May Belt about cables - john curl 21:35:32 10/26/06 (1)
    What a nice guy! ;-) Mostly a fool.
    - Re: I know I can, just by re-reading John Curl's "serious discussion" with May Belt about cables - Soundmind 05:22:06 10/27/06 (0)
      You mean for wasting my time talking to the likes of you? Obviously!

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