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In Reply to: RE: nLite and cMP and STEPPE posted by smicyta on October 11, 2011 at 01:17:09
The Part I implemented consists of the following:-
1) disabling printers & faxes
2) terminating individual services (about 30 of them)
3) removing network connections
4) removing scanners & camera
5) removing schedule cast applet
4) removing 435 system32 files
These alone made a tremendous difference. The above mentioned is just one section of the slimming procedure. There are totally Nine sections in the slimming process.
Junaid
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Thanks.
I have Part 2 to 10
2) and 4) are actually the same.
2) allows you a choice of what to delete.
4) is the option of deleting all the services in one go.
Did you delete everything or you kept some of the services?
Regards
I Removed ALL the services in Part 2. In short, i did not omit anything from that Part. This was done after reverting back to steppe 5. I wanted to listen for a few days before i move on to Part 2. As it is, it sounds very promising....
Junaid
Since I am in the midst of trying to find the best foundation for my system I did an install yesterday with a mildly de-contented nLite install disk. It makes for a quick install and has WFP disabled.
I first installed chipset drivers, cMP, cPLAY, JULI@ and a few of the important cMP optimizations.
I went through and did all of the BF deletions. I did pick and choose serivces (and would appreciate knowing which ones you deleted).
Well, I lost CONTROL PANEL and the START button. If I hit the WINDOWS button the menu would appear but with most of the (few) items I had left on the menu still available. Luckily I could access WINDOWS EXPLORER and was able to engage cMP from there. And it still worked and played all night. My computer is not connected to the system so I have no idea what it sounds like. Wanted to get something stable before doing that because access to the computer is cramped when it is installed.
I know this doesn't tell us much but it is interesting.
Also, I am wondering if getting the best out of Serge's regimen is to use the LYNX card? Wish it was not so expensive. The fact that JULI@ seems to need more .dll's than the LYNX is intriguing.
First of all I am unable to understand why do u need to install via nLite ?? Why can't u just do a clean install of xp & disable services according to the cMP website, take a back up & name it step 1. Thereafter u can proceed with whatever u want to. Now that batches 1 to 16 are ready, it's gonna take absolutely no time to work through till part 16 if u wish to.
As for my side, I'm doing a very very critical analysis of various combinations. And I'm very very happy with their outcome. One thing I understand now... There are no hard & fast rules !!! Something that may seem illogical ends up sounding way beyond u expect. Such is what's happening here :-)
Junaid
I am unable to understand why do u need to install via nLite ??
Me neither. As I see it, the problem with programs like nLite and XPLite (although the latter is excellent for disabling WFP) is that they delete we know not what using rules we don't know to configure a system (cMP2) which the programs' authors know nothing about and probably wouldn't understand if they did.
Add to that the fact that, while the process of "slimming" XP is proving sonically very fruitful, no-one taking it forward, not even steppe who started it all by disabling a few codecs back in July and has done very fine work since, is quite sure why it's effective.
On top of that, users have different motherboards and soundcards. I, e.g., have two cMP2 systems, one running on a single-core Atom board, the other on a dual-core Atom one (both controlled via LAN). The boards use exactly the same drivers but a set of batch files that worked fine on one system gave me a "no boot" scenario on the other. Not sure why yet. Mihaylov's list of "network-safe" deletions was not safe on either even if I needed to reinstate only a couple of files.
I don't see any time soon a "royal road" to making this work though Jolida's current and impending batch files seem to offer a robust way of approaching things. It looks like being a slow, systematic process for almost all of us. With respect, neither nLite nor XPLite offers that.
Whatever, it's been fun has it not?
I too had used xplite initially, just to disable wfp. This was when I had started to set up my cMp, following instructions on the cics website. That's it. It did the job very well. But this time, when the same was used in the slimming down process, it proved highly disappointing.
Swapping over to steppe 5, & adopting the Bold Fortune route, was an eye opener. I'm glad things dint work out even after steppe 16, else cMp
Would have carried on with it's journey with a scar on it's face (xplite). No matter what we try to balance it with, it can only be partially masked like a make-up, but could never be healed. With the procedure I have followed now (involving three major steps), I feel I am almost done. Just a bit of fine tuning left. I do not know how the BF route is technically different from xplite. And I don't care to know as well. I'm just glad I'm enlightened at the right time, before things would have gone haywire...
Junaid
Like I said I used the nLite disk just to bypass WFP and to see what would happen with doing all of BF's deletions.
And it loads so quickly.
SO tonight I put on my hair shirt and wait for WINDOWS to load and see what happens. (And grit my teeth while I slog through the WFP disabling)
By the way, I have not received the gift of your batch files containing 1 to 16. When you get the chance I would be most appreciative!
Thanks for your advice.
Oh is it?? I'm sorry. I dint know. Actually I get so many emails everyday for the batches that I don't remember to whom I sent or not. Check Ur email now...
Junaid
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