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In Reply to: RE: To defend Serge .... posted by rickmcinnis@dogwoodfabrics.com on September 14, 2011 at 22:27:42
My apologies for not paying better attention.
I do wonder, though, if with the removal of the networking capability could there be such an improvement, without using a network, that one could come out ahead?
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with the removal of the networking capability could there be such an improvement
It needs to be tested but my guess would be that a good network-connected but headless setup would come out on top.
The orthodox setup includes a keyboard, a mouse (possibly a wireless one) and a monitor (perhaps with a touchscreen), all of them noisier than school children at a boy-band concert. Many builders use separate switching power supplies for the CPU, for the motherboard and for disk drives and adopt a bewildering variety of measures to tame them. Data are stored on locally-connected (notoriously noisy) spinning disks. The whole lot is typically squeezed together in a case beneath a rat's nest of cables. What a mess. (If you don't believe me, look at almost all pictures of inmates' systems - they're a veritable plague of "leeches on a mermaid's ass".
Compared to that lot, the likes of a Fit-PC2 (or indeed almost any mini-ITX mobo where the total power draw is about the same as most soundcards on their own) with a good linear PSU sited remotely, an SSD for the OS (also with a remote linear PSU) and a LAN to provide control and data seems to me as simple as it gets.
Hmmmmmm. A Keyboard, a mouse, a monitor, switching PSUs, at least one spinning disk, a soundcard with enough PSU add-ons to rival a small aircraft - or a mostly-inactive networking stack. Tough call.
Mihaylov: I do not recommend to owners of network configurations of cMP2 do this tweak
I've done most of the steppe 5 deletions and am reasonably convinced that there's an improvement to be had but I have not tried deleting anything that might be to do with networking and probably won't.
"Сonvenience" and "best sound" not is mandatory contradict each other.
Agree completely.
Dave
I haven't had time to attempt step 5 but am also daunted re impairing network function. Could you say which items you do not change or delete in order to preserve this?
There you go again smoking that cigarette (in a holder of course) talking with a David Niven accent, :)
Hi Dave!
Please describe your version of step 5 for the network configuration of cMP2 a la Fit-PC2.
Thanks.
Serge.
http://cmp2-mihaylov.narod.ru/
Edits: 09/15/11 09/15/11
Please describe your version of step 5 for the network configuration of cMP2 a la Fit-PC2.
Sorry for the delay - I decided to check that I'd done everything on the lists before answering your question. (I hadn't but I have now.) I don't have a "version" as such though I do have a procedure. In case it's helpful, here it is.
1. I have already worked at length with Bold-Fortune's XP Slimming Guide (see link). Much of what steppe recommends I have, for different reasons, already done and, in many cases, have gone further. (Details later!) That said, his suggestions have a marked effect on SQ and are well worth doing.
2. I would advise anyone against making changes like this unless they have an imagefile backup utility such as Snapshot or Acronis. It's a good idea also to have a docking station on your desktop box as it makes for quick recovery. Non-recoverable errors are pretty much inevitable.
I would also urge inmates NOT to use XPLite for anything other than disabling WFP. See link for a good explanation of why XPLite is best avoided.
But you know all this.
3. Copy the AA post into a text file and format it so it's easy to read (e.g. one step per line). See what steps are likely to involve networking. Clues include, obviously, the likes of files with net, tcp and ip in the name.
4. Perform the various steps in cMP Mode - it makes testing much quicker. Create shortcuts to regedit.exe and cmd.exe and place them somewhere easy to find. Launch Explorer from cMP's GUI and navigate to the shortcuts.
5. Work your way through the lists line by line. Skip any steps that you suspect may affect networking.
As you're accessing the cMP^2 box via VNC on an Internet-enabled desktop, it's easy look up any files you're not certain about. Much of the info is provided by companies trying to sell "security" software and isn't much use but you can usually get a rough idea sooner or later.
If the named file is present, decide whether to keep or delete it; make a note in your text file of what you delete. XP denied me access to some files - I didn't try to over-ride it.
If you disabled as many devices as possible prior to or during the XP install, many of the listed files may well not be present. I could only find about a quarter of them.
6. Test the system every few steps. This is easy if you stay in cMP Mode - a quick reboot is all you need.
7. Make regular backups of the OS partition - much better than the oft-recommended procedure of copying files you delete in the hope you can restore them in the event of fatal error. You'll forget where they came from and, in any case, copying doesn't protect you against Regedit errors.
The more often you make backups, the less time it takes to pin down the source of a problem.
8. I suppose, what with this and that, steppes 5 and 6 took me about two hours. I had no fatal errors (though I've had plenty before).
HTH
Dave
So Dave is not going thru Xplite (or an equivalent) a pre-requisite to Steppe 6 & beyond? That's how I read Serge. Did you do something similar to Xplite? Was not Autoruns something similar? When you went through Slimming XP did you use his 'routine' to do the changes or did you just plow through all the individual changes?
I am not anxious to buy a program for $40 to do one task and maybe never use it again.
I normally adhere to that procedure which you described. But it demands a lot of time. I thought that may be you have the LIST of changes in the registry and file system which it is necessary to make for the step 5 on full optimized cMP2 with network. But all the same thanks!
Serge.
http://cmp2-mihaylov.narod.ru/
Edits: 09/16/11
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