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In Reply to: RE: cMP - the open source high-end Memory Player posted by cics on December 30, 2007 at 05:42:01
Hi specialists and experienced users,I can't get my cMP to work at all! I. e. it starts typically with confis made according to the rules, but when it comes to playing a music file the player exits with various diagnostic messages, the latest saying:
Player started
Task=N# "c:\program files\cics Play\cicsPlay.exe" %C
Player Process Affinity: system 0x00000003 before 0x00000001 after 0x00000003
Player optimized for critical==> Player exited
cicsRemote was stopped by player, reinstating...
cicsRemote startedPlay action completed
That's it. I'm using a PC mostly according to the latest recommendations (GA-H55M-UD2H, Core i530, 1x2GB KVR, Corsair 60GB SSD, Samsung 1TB HDD), prominent exception is the soundcard: a Cantatis Overture 192.
Software is XP-SP2, ASIO4ALL, whole system completely tweaked according to recommendations except not switching AFD driver off (otherwise bluescreen) and not switching legacy USB off in BIOS (otherwise no mouse/keyboard).
System generally works very nicely.Tried ripping with EAC and all different CUE sheet otions, nothing helped. Tried ripping with dbPoweramp and cueMaker freeware, didn't help. Foobar via ASIO4ALL is playing nicely.
Where am I going wrong???
Edits: 04/01/11 04/01/11Follow Ups:
Hi Eunegis
your problem, IMHO, is the very very poor driver support By Cantatis' manifacture.
Asio4all is not bit-perfect too, so I think it will be impossible for you to reach a good result ( good SQ) with Cantatis. This is an interesting soundcard but I discharged it just for the driver: Asus itself was nearly 1 year working around driver of the Essence! Driver for audio are not so easy to make and his integration with a cMP2 is not so direct.
Asus Xonar Essence ( ST better than STX)could be great in a cMP2 system. If you can use a translator from Italian to english you can find some informations about this system here
http://www.nexthardware.com/forum/cmp-cmp-cplay/72414-asus-xonar-essence-st-stx-parte-prima.html
and here
http://www.nexthardware.com/forum/cmp-cmp-cplay/72759-asus-xonar-essence-st-stx-parte-seconda-lupgrade-estremo.html
It could be, in the future, I'll can translate it to english
Daniele
Hi Eunegis
I'm not shure about the bit-perfect fashion of ASIO4ALL but I've noted a huge difference in SQ when compared to the official ASIO driver 1792 and 1793, both true bit-perfect. The effect of ASIO4ALL was very similar to the older ( and not bit-perfect)Asus driver.
The Essence "outofthebox" in a cMP2 setting is a very good Soundcard, but I've searched for the limit of it, with an heavy modding.
Result of the modding is astounding but the advanced modding is difficult and dangerous.
Only with a simple add of three Burson Audio discrete Dual op-amp and a decent dual linear power supply ( 5V and 12V, two Peaktech 6080 laboratory PSU i.e.) will rise the SQ to the 75% of the maximum possible improvement.
With these two very easy changes you'll have a true hiend integrated transport, with analog unbalanced output only, I'm sorry.
If you are looking for a digital transpor I think Juli@ is the best choice.
The Cantatis Overture seems to me a potential good piece of Hardware without any support at all by the software side. My experience with Asus learned to me that SW is important as many the HW, if not more.
Daniele
Hi Daniele,
thanks for your help!
ASIO4ALL not bit-perfect? I've never read about that... (even cics is recommending ASIO4ALL if there are no native ASIOs)
How would the Overture compare to the Xonar concerning the hardware?
Cantatis claims to have such a good hardware - can you confirm that, esp. in relation to the Xonar? You're a brave modder, as far as I can depict from the links you provided, so I guess you can provide some insights about the hardware of both cards...
I couldn't find a suitable translation program for the italian links you provided, and Google translatior is ridiculous. So I can only roughly estimate the content of the posts. What do you regard as a mid-range CDP (comparison to the Essence ST)?
I'm using JRiver with its inbuilt kernel streaming and complete memory loading at the moment, and I start it through cMP, just as I would with cPlay. Its the only kmixer-bypassing option that works with the Overure. But I guess it should be Bit-perfect, too - or what?! At least JRiver is well appreciated for its sound quality, so I suppose in that setup (kernel streaming, memory play, via cMP) it could be a worthwhile replacement for cPlay.
I'm waiting for Dawnrazor's comment on my settings of the cMP-system to find out if I've missed something. If he (or some other friendly guy having insights) can't find anything weird I'll go with the JRiver option at first and see if I'll switch to another soundcard (probably +DAC - I'm thinking of a Beresford TC-7520SE, but I don't know which soundcard with it) later on.
I'm having the RME 9632 lying around at home un-unpacked. I find it difficult to decide if it justifies the money. Without an external DAC its probably only midrange at best, but with a DAC its probably overkill since then most likely the DAC would make the sound (maybe something like a cheap EMU 0404 or so would be a wiser choice together with a DAC, but on the other hand: the RME 9632 has a zero-CPU-load design and is supposed to be on low pro level already. A fine Lynx is expensive, so getting a better DAC instead would probably be the better choice, right? No??)
Hi E,
I'm waiting for Dawnrazor's comment on my settings of the cMP-system to find out if I've missed something
Well I found the german hard to get past :).
Though I thought it was weird that windows showed a soundcard present at all. I suppose it is because the windows audio service is running. On the lynx you can stop the windows audio service and use the native asio driver. One of the things I took from the cmp2 project is that the sofware side of things is just as important as the hardware and well you might be better off soundwise with a card that doesnt need the windows audio service even if that cards hardware might not be as good as the card you have now.
Is there a pict of the canturis setup screen???
Otherwise, nothing jumped out at me. Looks like that card is just a non starter with cmp2. Though if you can get it to work with Jriver it should work with asio4all which is just doing kernal streaming. Maybe jriver is the compromise you need.
If you are set on getting an external dac, I would say go with the Juli@. We know it works with cmp2 and is affordable and will make a great card for your external dac. FWIW I do recall an inmate who used the juli@s analog outs and was happy.
Sorry I cant be of more help. Now about that Lynx :)
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Thanks Dawnrazor!
You were a great help in that EXcluding ways and possibilities is just as important as INcluding them!
By the way: I've had a state somewhen during the struggle with no soundcard mentioned in the windows settings. I rolled that back to what it is now because I thought that must have been wrong. But ASIO4ALL did't work in that state without a soundcarddriver present either.
Meanwhile Daniele from Italy reported similar problems with the Overture. He dropped it and modded a Xonar quite heavily instead and seems to be happy. Leif from Berlin tought me that kernel streaming is not bit perfect and that the upsampling done by cPlay is much more sophisticated than Sox and alike in foobar/JRiver, and I think Daniele mentioned that ASIO4ALL isn't bit perfect either. So the Overture is ready to be kicked out... Thanks a lot again for your help.
So far nobody really seems to be willing to tell me that there is a good analog out soundcard for PCI out there. Hmmm... Seems to be true then, or what?! But: that forces me, if I want or not, to consider an external DAC more severely. What are nowadays recommendations on DACs ready to be used in a living room (i.e. no studio design, rack mount, or so)? I was thinking about a Beresford TC-7520SE (~€300/$400). I'd be willing to spend ~€500/$650. Or even better: a complete external USB-soundcard including a DAC (one box) to have power supply for both components completely external...
These shall be my final questions in this thread to lead it to a useful end (since throwing the Overture out alone is not really satisfying).
My take on your dilemma is that you could get the lynx. I think the analog outs ARE good and know of at least one external dac that is double the price and doesnt sound as good.
It is all relative of course but you will need something to get spdif to a dac (usb can work but it isnt exactly meant for the cmp2 build though the usb section does help alot). The Lynx has a great sounding analog output for the money, and the digital out is stellar according to Gordon Rankin. So if you want to, you can later add an external dac.
Also you have been trying to fit a square piece into a round hole with the cantoris, and I know the lynx works and works well with what you are trying to do. You have already wasted time and caused yourself frustration by going down a less traveled path, maybe it is time to take one that works??
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Your point of view sounds reasonable indeed.
But before before shooting too fast again I'll try to collect some information now.
Your statement about Lynx' l22 analog outs sounds promising.
Are RME9632's multiple clock operation modi helpful in any way?
At the moment I'm in a discussion about asynchronous USB. But I don't really oversee that area so far. Have to find out about cMP's pitfalls concerning that first, then see if there are suitable soundcards at all (haven't seen USB on a soundcard yet, only Firewire). At least RME and Lynx both provide AES/EBU for clock synchro in the future, but AES/EBU-connected DACs are pricy, I believe.
I didn't expect it to become so complex at THAT point...
Maybe we shouldn't go too far right here and now. I think I'll start another thread for that when time is right.
Thanks a lot so far!
I hope I am not confusing you further, but your choices for an int. sound card are:
1) Lynx L22
2) RME 9632
3) E-MU 1212M PCIe
4) Asus Essence ST
5) ESI Juli@
3, 4 and 5 are not expensive. You can even buy 2nd hand.
So you can try and eventually change them in the future. 5 is inferior for analog.
Both 3 and 4 have solved the driver problems they had in the past.
If you choose 1616M, you have 3) with analog part outside.
Hi Bibo,
thanks for your clear statement.
That ist basically the ranking that seems to crystallize from the whole discussion I've had here and elswhere meanwhile.
Dawnrazor is strongly in favour of the expensive Lynx l22, and he's most likely right if I consider what I've heard so far and that he has tested it extensively himself.
At the moment I'm trying to decide if the RME 9632 (which is lying at my home unused) is really auditibly worse than the Lynx via analog out or if it might only have a different sonic personality. Spec-wise they are both pretty similar. Especially do both offer an AES/EBU connection for later perfect external clock synchro (if I've got it right) in case a DAC should ever come into my mind...
And from what I've heard RME's drivers should be okay. The RME obviously hasn't been used/tested as extensively as the Lynx, though.
YOu keep saying you have the rme just lying around.
why not give it a try??
And FWIW bibo01, Play-mate and myself have all used the lynx 2b which is a multichannel version of the l22 with a cmp2 setup. You can do better than the Lynx but if you think the Lynx is expensive, then wait till you see what better costs...
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My list was not necessarily a ranking.I had both RME and Lynx. I preferred the second.
However, you pay a premium for 1 and 2 for added flexibility. 3 or 4 are also very good. You can also add an external DAC at a later date and use them digitally at maximum frequency.
PS: Leif (play-mate) was wrong, KS can be bit perfect in XP.
Edits: 04/10/11
Aha, all insiders over here... ;-)
WHAT did you like better (from your very personal, subjective point of view) in the Lynx than in the RME?
How do you realize bitperfekt kernelstreaming under XP? Is there anything specific to adjust?
Just a guess but it looks like that card is only 24bit and cplay outputs 32bit only so it doesnt work with some cards like the xonar.
There might be some workaround I missed, but you COULD try another player or ditch the card.
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Thanks Dawnrazor.
Doesn't sound too promising though...
The Cantatis must be a pretty good thing from a plain hardware point of view, I believe. Especially since I don't want to use an external DAC (that's why I exclude Juli@).Aren't there at least a fiew other Cantatis users here in the forum, also using cMP²? What's your experience?
Can anyone decipher cMPs diagnostic message mentioned in my basic post any further?
Edits: 04/02/11
Well, it looks like a lynx l22 is in your future :)
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Well, one step further again, but still a little confused:
cPlay now plays if I switch the soundcard's driver and ASIO4ALL to 44,1kHz, but if I switch both to 192kHz no sound comes out from cPlay while Foobar plays (though stating "44,1kHz" in its bottom status bar).
Cues only work flawless if I let EAC rip whole diskimages.
What's wrong? Does anybody know where the connection between the soundcard's driver and ASIO4ALL fails at 192kHz (while working at 44,1kHz)?
If everything is witched to 192kHz the balloon popup in ASIO4ALL's options window if I hover the mouspointer over "Cantatis Overture 192 Audio Controller WDM" says:
DEVICE
Vendor: Cantatis Ltd. (Envy24HFS)
Location: PCI-Bus=1, Device 2, Function 0
Output: 2x8-192kHz, 32Bits
State: unexplainable
-> deactivate system sounds ( --- done, of course!)
-> deactivate unused inputs/outputs ( --- tried all options, didn't help)
-> audiodriver too old or too new? ( --- ...???)
-> computers are stupid! ( --- ...?????? (not kidding))
Strange comments, from my beginner's point of view (everything translated litterally from German)!
Any ideas???
Why don't you try reinstalling the sound card driver?
Remember to do this under Step 6 of Optimisation: To update a sound card driver, set Event Log, Cryptographic Services, Windows Audio and WMI to Automatic and start them. Once the update is installed and stable, reset them to Manual.
Good Luck!
Hmmm..., o.k., I'll try that. But I don't expect it to make a difference since testing the soundcard's driver itself (i.e. opening its control panel and sending a testtone via provided software buttons at different sample rates) yields correct sound all the time. That must be through the WDM drivers without utilizing ASIO.
In my imagination it could be a bug or inconsistency or misadjustment on the way from the soundcard to ASIO4ALL with ASIO4ALL not picking up the 192kHz-signal (or > 44,1kHz signal, i.e. any upsampled signal) correctly, probably because some other device or driver or service prohibits that. But WHAT can it be?
Uninstalled and reinstalled soundcard driver and ASIO4ALL - nothing. Still only sound when both set to 44,1kHz.:-(((((
What are they both doing? Is the soundcard driver telling the soundcard to upsample? If yes, what is ASIO4ALL doing then? Bypassing the kernelmixer, okay. But there's a 44,1kHz-type-of-signal from the ripped audio CDs, right? Does it matter if the kernelmixer is bypassed by a 44,1- or a 192kHz stream? Is ASIO4ALL upsampling while bypassing? What is the soundcard's driver doing then?
You can see: I'm not an expert at all! But there's a number of options in the soundcard'd driver options and in the ASIO4ALL options. And none of the switches seems to help. Mostly everything else in the system is strangled and suffocated. Where's the mistake?
Edits: 04/04/11
E,
A couple of suggestions.
SOme screen shots of the asio 4 all panel and the soundcard driver screen and windows soundcard options (control panel/sounds or something like that) might help us spot something.
And from the earlier posts I dont think you SET anything in the soundcard driver or asio 4 all.
At least with the m-audio card I just tested things with CPLAY would automatically change the asio4all settings.
I just installed it and both it and cplay and the m-audio screen said 44. I switched cplay to 176 and both asio 4all and the m-audio screen changed automatically.
Also while cplay is good about notifying you ASIO is kind of weird in that often it wont adjust on the fly. You have to make changes and then exit cplay and then reopen for the changes to take.
Everyone is at a different place in life but IMHO it might be better ditching your card and getting something like a Lynx that is known to work with cmp2. You talk about the card you have and while it does look like a good sounding card, Asio4all is not good sounding and you might be better off with real asio and a juli@. The Lynx is IMHO worth the investment regardless and if it saves you time in figuring this all out, it is IMHO money well spent!!
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Agree with DR but either the lynx or juli@ (much cheaper in cost)are known soundcards that work fine.
At least I would add an E-MU 1212M, better performance than a Juli@
Hi B,
Even with the bloated creative drivers in the context of a cmp2 build???
No one here remembers the bending of our minds
ASIO is stable, just the Control Panil is slightly confusing. It's a much cleaner card than Juli@.
OK, how about compared to the lynx?
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Hi Theob, Bibo and Dawnrazor,I've somehow missed this branch of the discussion so far... (wonder why)
But thanks for your suggestions.
I have a 9632 lying at home at the moment, but it's still un-unpacked (30 days money back). Don't know if its a good choice for the money. Comments here on the forum are so-so. There have even been statements like "Juli@ cleans the floor with 9632". On the other hand someone said that the 9632 is " open- and forward-sounding" in the mids (kind of a sonic personality of RME cards), which I like very much. Probably the differences are so subtle that a big investment won't pay off...
EMUs are supposed to be a little complicated in handling (integrating into the system) - no?! But I'm ready to beconme convinced...
I don't want to use an external DAC, which is why Juli@ isn't first choice. Most any Juli@ user here on the forum seems to drive an external DAC with it. But maybe I'm wrong and the analog output sound of the Juli@ is not so bad. Even cics has been cited that the Juli@ were on par with an AES16 (though I don't know if he referred to digital or analog out - but I believe cics is using an external DAC, too).
I'd really like to get my Overture going, but the way is narrowing visibly meanwhile... Will try other free ASIO wrappers the next days.
But I'm still open for hardware suggestions. I don't like my sound too analytic, I rather prefer a live-like sound that jumps at me.EDIT: the status, now that I've unticked "do not map through this device", is that the ASIO4ALL control panel doesn't show its weird misfunction messages any more. BUT: when I use ASIO there is still no assigning of the stereo channels to the driver. That means the information bars in foobar2000 and cPlay still and always show "channel not connected" for right/left channel. I believe that's the crucial point of my soundlessness. I have no idea why it is so and where to change that. In the sounds tab of XP's control panel there's nothing to set in that regard.
Any ideas?
Edits: 04/07/11 04/07/11
E,
The one thing that comes to mind is that we know cplay is 32 bit. Foobar is selectable. I ditched foobar long long ago but take a look at the settings and see if you can set the output to 24 bits. If you can save the settings, exit and see if you can get foobar to play.
Also if you followed the instructions in the cmp2 directions you should have no options in the xp soundcard settings. IIRC there should be no device available since the windows audio service, kmixer, etc are disabled. I didnt see this on the site but I do recall killing the kmixer and I think that was with autoruns.
My documentation was from a time before the cmp2 website existed so maybe things have changed???
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Hi Dawnrazor, thanks for efforts and your experimental M-Audio installation! The linked switching is interesting - I'm far from that comfort.
After all my testing without the slightest countable results I'm mentally already on my way towards another soundcard (and throw the Overture in some "Bay"...). I only like the idea of this "poor man's approach" that the cMP² project seems to be from a superficial point of view, and I enjoy to build my eqipment myself (did it with the speakers, too - tremendous result sonically!), so I'm trying to avoid costly equipmet. But those who save too much at first pay double in the end...
By a German musicians equipment store (professional guys) a RME 9632 has been recommended to me. Reviews on the net describe it as really, really good sounding, even outperforming DACs below $1k. And it has truly pro driver support. It costs ~$500 in GER (the l22 is ~$1k). But we'll see, maybe I'll even switch to Lynx...
But nevertheless, I'll keep on working on the Overture/ASIO4ALL combo for a little more time and try to send you some screenshots (in case the stripped down XP still makes it).
E,
Ask your store if the RME will work with a cmp2 box :)
If you are looking at the rme do post on the cmp2 thread and see if any inmates can confirm that it works with the recipe.
Your problem is not your soundcard, it is that your soundcard doesnt work well with the cmp2 recipe.
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Hi Dawnrazor,I totally agree!
Thats why I'm partly trying to roll back the most radical parts of my XP-stripping right now. But since I'm no expert I'm tumbling in the fog a little...Still its hard to accept that despite fairly defined interfaces (WDM <-> ASIO) and explicit claims of compatibility (Cantatis) a flawless talk between the stripped XP, the soundcard + its drivers and ASIO4ALL should not be possible (especially since the soundcard is supposed to be exclusively designed for high level audio reproduction without any of the spare weight of recording capabilities). A sad thing that is... (though: if it doesn't get any worse in life I'll be relaxed ;-))))
Edits: 04/07/11 04/07/11
I fortunately never had to mess with asio 4 all though I do recall it could do 192.
As for the eac cue thing, I think you are right that it just does one big file and then the cue works.
A different approach is to rip to multiple .wav files and use the recursive cue creator to create the cue sheets.
No time to find it, but do a search on this asylum and you will find a link to Alan Jordan's program. That approach will also allow for playlists within cmp2.
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Thanks Dawnrazor, I'll try that.
Still ASIO4ALL works only at 44,1 kHz, not at sample rates above. I've tried to exclude all possible and impossible drivers via autoruns to prevent the soundcard getting blocked by other devices from ASIO4ALL's point of view, allthough these efforts seem unlikely to help to me because the whole system is stripped to the bone anyway - and indeed it didn't help so far. Next step would be to uninstall MIDI drivers in the soundcards menu (which I didn't do so far since I don't know how to reinstall them), but if I block any MIDI driver I can find via autoruns it should be just the same thing, shouldn't it!?
What the heck can block ASIO4ALL at > 44,1 kHz, but not at exactly 44,1 kHz??? I would expect it to be blocked all the time or never, but not depending on utilization of an upsamplig mode.
Are you having the above messages in cPlay Diagnostic?
Probably, the on board audio device is not disable in BIOS:
Integrated Peripherals
Disable Azalia codec
Good Luck!
Hi smicyta, thank you for your attentionBut unfortunately that is not the problem. EVERYTHING has been disabled all the time just as per cics' recommendations. And messages I get don't match yours.
Current status is this:
cPlay and foobar2000 both play at 44,1kHz through ASIO4ALL. Anything above yields no sound through both players while I can see both players working (i.e. counting the song's time or graphically doodling the equalizer).
If I open cPlay's preferences dialog I can see that left and right channel say "not connected" at > 44,1kHz while correctly connected at 44,1kHz. Same is valid for foobar2000.
At > 44,1kHz the ASIO4ALL preferences dialog says "device status unexplainable" no matter if launched through cPlay or foobar2000, while at 44,1kHz ASIO4ALL gives no hint of malfunction (=properly connected).My conclusion ist that somewhere in the XP-system things are set in a way that only a 44,1kHz signal is allowed to pass through to the soundcard while > 44,1kHz is blocked. Where can I find that switch?
Is it on the way from the soundfile/player to ASIO4ALL (bypassing kmixer), on the way from ASIO4ALL to the WDM-driver or from WDM to the soundcard (expressed in an amateurs words). I don't know exactly which way the audio stream goes, especially since ASIO4ALL is a socalled "wrapper" (and I don't really know about that), but my description might probably have at least some relation to reality.Does anybody know anything about a possible switch in XP (i.e. a driver or a service, or so) to look at to cure the blocking of signals > 44,1kHz?
Or should it be the soundcard's WDM-driver? I must admit that this would sound very unlikely to me since Cantatis on their website explicitly claim the Overure 192 to be fully ASIO- (and ASIOv2-) capable (even though they don't provide native drivers).
Edits: 04/05/11 04/05/11
Try this: Deselect Do not map through this device!
It works for playback in foobar2000 @ 176.4kHz, SoX resampler.
Good Luck!
Hi Smicyta,thanks for your hint. Did it and experienced a partial improvement - but still no sound > 44,1kHz.
Partial improvement insofar as the "device status unexplainable"-balloon-popup in the ASIO4ALL control panel is now gone, as well as the yellow "female-sign" associated with it! So the ASIO4ALL control panel seems to regard settings as adequate now for itself, as far as I can depict it.The remaining problem - and that turns out more and more to be the crucial point - is that the options dialog for ASIO4ALL (in cPlay and foobar the step before the ASIO control panel) constantly says "channel 1 left + channel 2 right not connected" when sample rate in the soundcard's options is switched > 44,1kHz. And I have no options anywhere to adjust that or pick something else.
I also tried to leave it at 44,1 in the soundcard's options and turn only cPlay to 192 (who knows...), but that didn't help either - no connection to the channels all the time.
Continue trying...
Edits: 04/07/11
Did you mapped the channel to something like this? For some cards, may have to mapped the correct device channel for the left and right. And also for some, if all device channels mapping are set to none, foobar2000 might continue playing but with no sound.
Exactly THAT is the problem!!!Mapping right at this point doesn't work. The device channels are not automatically mapped at > 44,1kHz, and I can't map them manually with ASIO4ALL (a channel list pops up upon clicking, but picking an option has simply no effect, eventually everything stays as before).
For some strange reason mapping works automatically and is correct at precicely 44,1kHz.
I can't find some - lets say - preparing step or switch in XP to achieve mapping capability at > 44,1kHz.
And the soundcard's driver is held overly simple, so there are no options to choose from either other than the sample rate and headphones/speakers on/off (which I've tried as well, of course).
Edits: 04/09/11 04/09/11
HI e,
Is your cplay set up like this:
And can you post shots of asio4all and your windows panel and your soundcards asio screen? If screen capture doesnt work then try just a pict of the screen.
There has to be something that we are missing. With asio you dont map the sample rate. You do map channels and sometimes if the mapping of the channels is wrong you might have issues. Cplay is nice because unlike foobar it just gets the mapping right and offers a simple dropdown.
The player should determine the sample rate.
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O.K., here it is: go tohttp://eunegis.imgur.com/
and select the (only) album "Audio Asylum".
There are the screenshots I've taken.
If you need anything more just let me know, Sherlock...
I'm curious to hear if you can see anything more than I could!
Edits: 04/09/11
Hi Dawnrazor,
thanks for your efforts and your patience.
I'll try to create screenshots of all important panels and post them here. I hope I can make it this weekend.
Funny thing is: at the moment I'm using JRiver with its inbuilt kernel streaming (ASIO doesn't work here either) through cMP (as one would normally do it with cPlay) - and it works! Sample rate in the soundcard driver is set to 192kHz, and in JRiver I'm upsampling to 192kHz plus I use complete memory loading. So I have practically the same constellation with JRiver as I would have it with cPlay if it worked. The difference is basically only JRiver's more bloated interface and the fact that it doesn't assign decoding and upsampling to one core and the rest to the other, afaik (and to recognize anything in JRiver I have to switch XP to 16Bit color depth).
At least something - right? Maybe its not the worst workaround anyway, and JRiver offers advanced remote control capabilities, afaik.
But I'll try the screenshot thing nevertheless... (that's a question of pride and battle motivation meanwhile - and a sign of respect to those who contribute!)
just a wag (wild a guess) but I believe asio4all only works to 96 Khz.
Hi theob, thanks for your participation.
Unfortunately: no, ASIO4ALL works with sample rates that are a straight multiplier of 44,1 or 48 as long as the soundcard makes it (ASIO4ALL forum, M. Tippach himself commented).
Tried all other options mentioned in the how-to of ASIO4ALL, especially blocking MIDI-devices (not mentioned in cics' advice, or at least I've never found it), but only 44,1kHz works.
Strange, since all other information points to flawless work at 192kHz.
The ASIO4ALL driver states the device as "unexplainable", which is practically the same es "blocked by some other device" (according to ASIO4ALL manual). But there is nothing around in the system other than things allowed by cics' advice. Even MIDI is blocked, only "standard devices" are allowed, which means plain soundcard stereo output, no system sounds.
I'd really like to try these advanced upsample algorithms provided by cPlay, so I guess I'll need 192kHz for that...
Hmmm... - Lynx l22 = €620,- in Europe - looks like a VERY DISTANT future...
I've fiddled things to the point where my cue sheets work, even though cues for single files need manual correction for each flac/wav mentioned in the sheet, and EAC-cues need less correction than CPlayListEditor's cues.
If I create an image of the whole disc with EAC the cues work out of the box (surprising to me - thought, single files should have been the way to go).
BUT: no sound from cPlay yet! Test of the soundcard through its driver's test tone seperate for each channel yields sound, foobar via ASIO plays flawless as well.
Don't know if ASIO4ALL might cause the trouble, but the logs say ASIO's initialization is ok. And there isn't so much to adjust. Must be the interaction between ASIO and cPlay (which should have already been tested excessively, though). Can buffer values cause complete seizure of sound, or do they only affect quality? I've left everything at defaults in this regard so far.
Anybody?
Checked driver descriptions of a few other soundcards in the meantime: none says anything about 32bit processing, only 24bit can be found.
Tried tweaking .pth-files of cMP and cicsPlay according to my system - cPlay starts now and ASIO4ALL initializes w/o problems, but cue-processing fails.
Continue trying...
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