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In Reply to: RE: cMP - the open source high-end Memory Player posted by cics on December 30, 2007 at 05:42:01
I came across an article at
http://www.pctips3000.com/migrate-your-os-to-a-ssd-drive-for-free/
which provides a link to get a download of promotional software(usually $19.95) from Paragon. It works on windows OS starting with XP. I haven't yet used it to migrate my cMP2 setup to SSD myself, but will soon. Meanwhile others of you may wish to give it a try. It could be a real time and aggravation saver.
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Now I have migrated my cMP2 system to 16GB Kingston s100 ssd. It was a very simple no-hitch process using the Paragon free migration program. The result was a very nice improvement in sound.
dear forum,
also I swopped from regular HDD yesterday by transfering the minlogon/optimized partition to a small separate SSD.
I´ve used Bart PE (also free download) to manage, restore and write images on harddisks.
just download and write as a bootable CD-Rom. Start your computer from this disk and manage your partitions.
the SSD certainly gives more transparency, liquidity and improved holographic sense.
definitely a MUST !
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Another approach is a hybrid SSD/HDD. I just popped one in. It has 500gb total capacity, and 4gb solid state read buffer. Seagate Momentus.
It appears to use the solid state for frequently used stuff. I got a good improvement in sound quality, and no hasstle.
before I optimized the system for CMP, I used it briefly as a web surfing machine. This hybrid drive was blazing fast.
On CMP is seems to boot pretty quickly. After that its the sound quality that counts.
I ust say I recommend it. At $120 cdn, it was a nice add in speed if you are using a laptop for CMP.
...and it keeps getting better. I, per Mark's and Dave's suggestion, tried 44Khz sr @ small buffer and it is very very good. I use the Ryeland's routine to load the music files onto the Kingston 8gb ssd for playback and that brings the sq to yet another level. Best sq pop I have done since being a chartered member of cmp^2 user group (I just made that name up). I heartilly recommend this to all.
A BSO download of a Mahler Symphony #6 and found that it was better than from the HDD (by the way the HDD was un-powered during the audition) but the difference was not such I am ready to spend five hundred dollars on a large SSD.
In my case, nowhere near the same increase in listening pleasure as using the SSD for OS and software. Not to say I do not look forward to being able to afford a large SSD for my music files but it is not like you can't go back and still enjoy the system.
I wish I could understand Ryeland's approach to using the smaller SSD. Does one need a second computer to do this?
One man's opinion ...
Bye,
You don't need a 2nd computer. You simply configure a new path file in cmp, restrict yourself to choosing files via the Explore button on the cmp screen (versus the cmp file browsr), set up a couple of file shortcuts, restrict your cmp disc drivess to just C file rather than all your music drives, establish a new bat file called reset and you are there.Take a look at the original thread authored by Ryelands several weeks ago.
Edits: 03/02/11
and my eyes glazed over.
I just sis not understand it.
You have exceeded my level of computer skill if you did that!
I will try again!
Thanks,
The reset bat file simply deletes your music file and creates another one...essentially empties it out...so you only have one file and cue at any timeThe change to your cmp path file simply runs the reset bat file eveytime you open cmp.
Changing your cmp browser drives to just the c drive will assure that cmp only looks there and not all your other drives.
For the shortcuts and such you can simply skip this stuff(for now) and when you open Explore from your cmp screen you search your files and when you find what you want to listen to ...you use the send to command to send the cue and music file to the c drive (rt click on the files). Then you close that screen (upper right x) and now you will find only that file showing on your cmp screen. Choose it to run and you are in business.
Sound reasonable?
Edits: 03/03/11
Is there a way to add a choice to send to?
Is there a way to add a choice to send to?
1. Create a "target" folder to which you will always send your music and call it, say, C:\00 (nice and short). Create a shortcut to it.
2. Launch Explorer and go to Tools > Folder Options > View, check "Show hidden files and folders" and uncheck "Hide protected operating system files".
2. You can now see files and folders that are normally hidden including every user's "Send To" folder and the normally hidden .default user. Go to C:\Documents and Settings and select the current user (under minlogon, that's .default).
4. You can see the SendTo folder - open it. Delete or mark as hidden any crap you'd rather not normally see. Move in the shortcut you made earlier, restore Explorer's "View" settings and you're done. See screenshot.
In use, it's like this:
HTH
Dave
I feel like the Sorcerer's Apprentice. Thanks Dave
THANKS to you both!!!
One of the great things about the cMP adventure is you get to learn things about computers.
I would have never figured that out without the tutoring.
Thanks, again, to you both for taking the time.
Of course, there are many others out there who will, also, benefit from the lesson.
Bye,
Rick McInnis
I see that Ryelands and Theo are right - this is a very worthwhile improvement.
Akin to changing an LP with its added complexity. Nothing wrong with getting out of the chair to make a change.
NOW, to arrange my music in folders as Ryelands has. It IS a pain looing though all of ones choices within EXPLORER, but one will get used to it.
One wonders how much might be gained with being able to turn off the HDD?
Thanks again for the help.
Rick McInnis
Maybe that is why Dave created the "c:\ music" thing.
Try
Third step: make a directory in C:\ and call it “Music”; right-click on it in Explorer (RH pane) and select “Create Shortcut”. Make hidden and system files visible in Explorer and move the short cut to C:\Documents and settings\Username\SendTo. For now, you can either leave the other crud in the folder or (recommended) delete it. Rename the shortcut to, say, "Music". Restore Explorer's "View" settings
Thanks, Theo.
I will see if I can do that tonight.
Bye,
Rick McInnis
I really wish that I could acquire an 8 GB SSD but it is not available over here.
I had to settle for a Kingston 30GB, the smallest available. This comes with Acronis Disk cloning software, but, sadly it doesn't work on XP(SP2), only on SP3. Fortunately, was able to clone the SSD from the existing HDD using Vista on a working computer. Everything works the way it was before, except that now I will have to decide on the method of streaming the music files.
Think I would do that via eSATA, now that the spare HDD had a SATA to eSATA enclosure. Now I have only a thumb drive streaming the music on cPlay.
Improvement is very noticeable. Should had gone this way earlier.
Kudos to Mark, Dave, Rick, Theo and others who had shown the way.
the rest of us followed and are as grateful as you. Speaking of using the SSD for OS and software; cics went whole hog, an approach most of us would love to try, but ... Mark let it be known that this approach has much to offer. At least, he is the one that got me to try it.
I guess I need to load a few albums onto the SSD, turn off the HDD and hear what happens, but I have not done it yet.
With 30gb you could put good number of absolute favorites on there.
Are you using a linear supply for the SDD?
Hi Rick
Yes, I am using an off-the shelves linear supply for the SSD.
Might be able to load about 30+ albums onto the SSD, but that would have to wait till tomorrow.
Oh! Yes, Mark led the way. I was thinking that with a large SSD and when capacities run out in the next few years, an upgrade would still be costly, which is why I decided on a small one.
Regards
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